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    #16
    Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
    Actually it's 3 games. Toulouse, Everton and Besiktas. He missed three others with injury.
    Press don't like to think of that time as injured, they hear rotated when Rafa says injured.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
      Actually it's 3 games. Toulouse, Everton and Besiktas. He missed three others with injury.


      He was never gonna start either Toulouse game, he was injured for Everton and I can't remember what the situation was for Besiktas.

      He was rested/left out at Pompey and for the home game against Birmingham and came on as sub in both.
      Last edited by Shaggy; 30-11-07, 08:05 PM.
      Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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        #18
        Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View Post


        He was never gonna start either Toulouse game, he was injured for Everton and I can't remember what the situation was for Besiktas.

        He was rested/left out at Pompey and for the home game against Birmingham and came on as sub in both.
        He was injured for Besiktas I think and when he was rested against Pompey he had injured himself on international duty but still played the game against Iceland, natural that he was rested I think. Rafa thought we could win Brum without him.
        * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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          #19
          ****ing hell, it's Carheex FFS. Why are we even humouring him?
          3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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            #20
            Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
            He was injured for Besiktas I think and when he was rested against Pompey he had injured himself on international duty but still played the game against Iceland, natural that he was rested I think. Rafa thought we could win Brum without him.
            I expected him to be left out at Pompey and defended Rafa on here amid the backlash, although I was pretty miffed he was left out against Brum. I can understand Rafa thinking we could beat Brum without him - we ****ing should be able to - but he still should've played.
            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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              #21
              Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
              I would say the real reason behind the recent bust-up is a combination of the Americans, as is their nature, being cunts and that they, much like the British media as a whole (and I'm specifically referring to Andy Gray here) are blind to Rafa's genius.
              "Justice has been done."

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                #22
                Originally posted by Glenn Hysen View Post

                Haha.
                3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by carheex View Post
                  According to a friend of a friend of mine (who knows a certain spanish reporter), the real reason behind recent events is that Rafa has felt undermined by the club owners and sees them as trying to have too much influence over not just which players to buy but also over team selection. Their main bone of contention is with the record signing of Torres. They're baffled as to why Rafa keeps dropping the player that they invested so much money in....and they don't want to spend any more until they are sure that the players that Rafa buys will play the majority of games. You won't see Torres dropped too often now before the end of the january transfer window..
                  he's only missed one

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                    #24
                    This is gonna become a bigger conspiracy theory than the fake Apollo moon landings

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by chrispy View Post
                      This is gonna become a bigger conspiracy theory than the fake Apollo moon landings

                      you mean they wernt real?
                      Lawrenson:"Well thats 3 good chances they have had in the first 3 minutes of this half"

                      Motson:"" Yes Mark, you could almost say that they have had 3 chances in as many minutes"

                      Lawrenson: Errr I thought I just did say that, John"

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by carheex View Post
                        According to a friend of a friend of mine (who knows a certain spanish reporter), the real reason behind recent events is that Rafa has felt undermined by the club owners and sees them as trying to have too much influence over not just which players to buy but also over team selection. Their main bone of contention is with the record signing of Torres. They're baffled as to why Rafa keeps dropping the player that they invested so much money in....and they don't want to spend any more until they are sure that the players that Rafa buys will play the majority of games. You won't see Torres dropped too often now before the end of the january transfer window..
                        either your friend or his friend is talking bollox,no offense.
                        You two scousers are always yapping,I'm gonna show you some serious rapping.
                        I come from Jamaica,my name is John Barnes,When I do my thing the crowd go bananas.

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                          #27
                          To give you some idea of where Hicks is coming from in 2000 he shelled out a then record salary to sign A-Rod for his baseball team. In the next 3 seasons A-Rod missed 1 game in 486 (baseball seasons are 162 games). Okay, baseball is not nearly as demanding physically as footie is but there is a lot of travelling, road trips that go on for weeks, and the postion A-Rod played for Hicks' team can involve quite a bit of movement. It's the most important fielding position on the team.

                          What I'm trying to say is that in Baseball at least its virtually unheard of for top-performing star players to be rested unless it's a meaningless game at the end of the season. I can understand why Hicks might be a bit frustrated when, having been demanded that he spend the big bucks for Torres, the guy is rested and we perform poorly.
                          Last edited by bigfooty; 01-12-07, 06:01 AM.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by bigfooty View Post
                            To give you some idea of where Hicks is coming from in 2000 he shelled out a then record salary to sign A-Rod for his baseball team. In the next 3 seasons A-Rod missed 1 game in 486 (baseball seasons are 162 games). Okay, baseball is not nearly as demanding physically as footie is but there is a lot of travelling, road trips that go on for weeks, and the postion A-Rod played for Hicks' team can involve quite a bit of movement. It's the most important fielding position on the team.

                            What I'm trying to say is that in Baseball at least its virtually unheard of for top-performing star players to be rested unless it's a meaningless game at the end of the season. I can understand why Hicks might be a bit frustrated when, having been demanded that he spend the big bucks for Torres, the guy is rested and we perform poorly.
                            I wonder if Hicks understands the European footballing way........., actually forget I said that, I just want the best for my team.
                            http://www.retroreds.co.uk/

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                              #29
                              i love rafa.
                              "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
                              Tupac

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Iceman View Post
                                you mean they wernt real?
                                I'm sorry my friend but no......they were'nt real. Neither is Santa or the tooth fairy. Jury's still out on the Easter Bunny though.

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