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    Originally posted by REDSCOUSER View Post
    3-4-3 worked last year away from home at Charlton & Watford but they are not on par with Reading. Rafa got his tactics wrong again this season. There was no bleeding width.
    Very dissapointing to lose a match to a team struggling in the lower half.
    Agreed. Even if the personnel had changed in a 4-4-2 which ahd been working so well to this point, I could understand that, but to change the system as well seemed strange to say the least.

    Having said all that, at 60 mins in, there looked as there was only going to be 1 winner of that game.....us. A freak free-kick goal, and poor defending on the halfwayline costs us.

    If we had to lose 1 of the 3 games over the next 8 days, then I would have chosen that one. Chests out lads, we need 2 big performances on Tursday and Sunday.

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      just seen the spitting image jose sketch, i suppose we could be in a far worse place

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        Originally posted by The Glove View Post
        Anyone Else Calls Anyone A Cunt Or Anything Like That And You Will Be Binned Because I Cant Be Arsed Editing Or Deleting Anymore.




        UNDERSTAND?
        Shut it C***







































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          Originally posted by Kopite_Colin View Post
          Chests out lads, we need 2 big performances on Tursday and Sunday.


          Papering over the cracks.

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            Originally posted by Slim View Post
            We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. I wouldn't call a 7 point gap with over half the season to go being 'way ahead'.
            Aye, It's not a disaster by any means. I'd still prefer not to be chasing as we usually are but there ya go. Especially with the congested xmas fixtures coming up which will really test the others squads out. Thats where we have our slight advantage of all the rotation.
            # Fernando Torres, Liverpool's number 9 #

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              I'm not happy.

              Riise, Crouch are not good enough. I mean how many headers did Crouch win today? He is so soft and weak. Joker.

              Riise 3 times free down the left picks out the opposition. He also continues to shoot from miles out and waste possesion.

              Sissoko should not play together with Mascherano.

              These opinions are not based purely on tonight. I've always maintained Riise is not good enough. We need another option up front alongside Torres and keep Voronin as back up.

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                Mourinho won the title in his first season after inheriting a really expensive side and investing a lot more. Fergie spent a lot this season and last season. He always has money. Wenger spends a lot on youth. Its not documented on the press because they love Wenger. Rafa has spent on one Torres. YES ONE TORRES. 50% of his spend was from offloading others.

                There is no balance with the Liverpool fans. One minute we can win the title, the next we will finish 15 points off. Ease off. After Christmas and then we can see whether we are out of the title race.

                His rotation policies took us to two Champions League finals and one FA Cup final. Its stupid to blame it on something so reductionist. If its not rotation, its zonal marking. If its not zonal marking, its Gerrard playing on the right etc etc.

                Today, the team was poor. The personnel within the side has the quality to beat half the sides in the Premiership. Rafa needs to get rid of crap, Voronin, Riise, Momo being the main culprits today with just being poor and not only today but consistently poor.

                Two wins in the next week and we will win the title again to all the haters on this site.

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                  Originally posted by ronan View Post
                  perhaps our budget in january depends on qualifying for the knockout stages
                  or perhaps his job does?
                  if we had won today but lost to the mancs next week would that make you happy?
                  todays loss can only be judged on future results.
                  There's no reason why we had to lose to any of Reading/Marseille/Man Utd!

                  People seem to be defending Rafa under the belief that to beat Marseille/Man Utd, then we had to lose to Reading or if we beat Reading then we would've lost to Marseille/Man Utd. I'm sorry but we're Liverpool, we should be beating Reading & then Marseille & why not Utd as well?

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                    Only one to blame !!

                    You can say what you like but there was only one man to blame for today's defeat........RAFA.

                    Anyone who can justify what HE decided to do today (and i'm not even talkin about subs) I will be amazed...He played 443 with the wrong players - since when has crouch been good in a narrow team ?? Since when has momo been good...especially in a 3 man midfield when it's not even a 451?? nuts .
                    If you think I'n Rafa bashing I am, he played the wrong system was too pig headed to change it even though we could all see it was the wrong one after 10 mins and then took our best players off before changing the system .....??

                    To be honest I cant even be arsed adding more and i believe if any of you slate me for this then you don't understand footbal ........... I believe he will be gone if we dont win midweek and can we argue when he obviously doesn't rate the prem as much as the ECL ??


                    Give me the abuse but it should be saved for Rafa, anyone who says different has no clue about what they saw today...

                    Let the abuse begin !

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                      Originally posted by The Glove View Post
                      Anyone Else Calls Anyone A Cunt Or Anything Like That And You Will Be Binned Because I Cant Be Arsed Editing Or Deleting Anymore.




                      UNDERSTAND?
                      Fully. Lost the plot there for a minute. Apologies.
                      Dare we believe

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                        Originally posted by UpTheMiddle View Post
                        There's no reason why we had to lose to any of Reading/Marseille/Man Utd!

                        People seem to be defending Rafa under the belief that to beat Marseille/Man Utd, then we had to lose to Reading or if we beat Reading then we would've lost to Marseille/Man Utd. I'm sorry but we're Liverpool, we should be beating Reading & then Marseille & why not Utd as well?
                        Its you! How the devil are you three doing?

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                          Crouch cares too much about his image and who is bird is shagging behind his back these days.

                          He was average to begin with. I've never understood the clamour to play him every week, he's a ****ing liability when he plays like that.

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                            Originally posted by kopash View Post
                            I'm not happy.

                            Riise, Crouch are not good enough. I mean how many headers did Crouch win today? He is so soft and weak. Joker.

                            Riise 3 times free down the left picks out the opposition. He also continues to shoot from miles out and waste possesion.

                            Sissoko should not play EVER again for us never mind alongside masch

                            These opinions are not based purely on tonight. I've always maintained Riise is not good enough. We need another option up front alongside Torres and keep Voronin as back up.

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                              Originally posted by Mattshark View Post
                              No way near as bad as you make out and he is good enough, maybe not week in week out, but he can do a job for us.

                              Do you think he'd get into Man UTD's, Chelsea's or Arsenal's SQUAD, never mind team?

                              If you do, you're wrong Fella, I'm sorry.

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                                Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
                                Mourinho won the title in his first season after inheriting a really expensive side and investing a lot more. Fergie spent a lot this season and last season. He always has money. Wenger spends a lot on youth. Its not documented on the press because they love Wenger. Rafa has spent on one Torres. YES ONE TORRES. 50% of his spend was from offloading others.

                                There is no balance with the Liverpool fans. One minute we can win the title, the next we will finish 15 points off. Ease off. After Christmas and then we can see whether we are out of the title race.

                                His rotation policies took us to two Champions League finals and one FA Cup final. Its stupid to blame it on something so reductionist. If its not rotation, its zonal marking. If its not zonal marking, its Gerrard playing on the right etc etc.

                                Today, the team was poor. The personnel within the side has the quality to beat half the sides in the Premiership. Rafa needs to get rid of crap, Voronin, Riise, Momo being the main culprits today with just being poor and not only today but consistently poor.

                                Two wins in the next week and we will win the title again to all the haters on this site.
                                Here we go, the excuses are already written up.

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