No melodrama: we've lost our club

[Red_Al_77]

Exactly.

It's as Morten says, speculation, speculation. If I took all the fear-mongering from 'the public domain' to heart, I would only ever leave the house for 15 minutes a day, have anti-missile rockets on my roof, wear an oxygen mask at all times etc. etc. etc.

Kaip does, but that's for another reason though.

[Rocket]

So I'm an embarressment. Thanks for your reasoned reply in which you carefully refute my post point by point.

to be honest fella, i don't need you trying to patronise me, i'm an inteligent lad, so you carry on, and i'll email some folks who know what they are talking about, and get their opinion.

[Kaip]

Tom will you remove the name you've posted twice

[Red_Al_77]

Can we at least spell embarrassment right?

[Tee]

I agree with Shaggys sentiments - American owners ARE a worry but lets just wait and see what happens - if you are sure of what you know Tom I can understand your post.

[Guest]

Can we start to have constructive arguments guys ? Sean & Rocket, if you really think that Tom is speculating or whatever, please guys just don't post in the thread. I've known Tom (on the internet) for years, and he's no bull****ter FFS.

If he wants to have a rant against the americans and he has substantial info backing that they're not what they picture themselves to be, let him express himself. It's clear something is wrong, speculation or not.

[Tom]

Speculation, speculation, speculation! WTF do we know?!

Well lets try this for starters:

Rafa has a huge argument over transfer funds after being promised snoogy-doogey and is subsequently told that he can't buy anyone.

The yanks promise that they wont load debt onto the club like manure. Hang-on a minute a few months later that's exactly what they plan to do.

They announce a spanking new stadium in a blaze of publicity. Opps can't have that now, back to the drawing board.


So on just about every public announcement they've reversed what they'd promised. Never mind I'm sticking my fingers in my ears and going la laaa la everything is ok.

Dream on, we're being shafted big time.

[Shaggy]

to be honest fella, i don't need you trying to patronise me, i'm an inteligent lad, so you carry on, and i'll email some folks who know what they are talking about, and get their opinion.

Reminds me of kopcol on Koptalk arguing with me about his amazingly high IQ.

[Kaip]

Kaip does, but that's for another reason though.

Hi dad

[Tom]

Can we at least spell embarrassment right?

[sean_lfc]

Can we start to have constructive arguments guys ? Sean & Rocket, if you really think that Tom is speculating or whatever, please guys just don't post in the thread. I've known Tom (on the internet) for years, and he's no bull****ter FFS.

If he wants to have a rant against the americans and he has substantial info backing that they're not what they picture themselves to be, let him express himself. It's clear something is wrong, speculation or not.

I've known Tom for years as well fredo and I must say I've always valued his opinions.

And fair enough, you say 'it's clear that something is wrong', but until these things peter out, I'm not going to start agreeing to all these apocalypse type posts that are coming out. And that's my god-damn right.

[Guest]

Too many facts, and by that I mean concrete facts (such as putting plans for the stadium back and the altercation with Rafa) means that these guys are cocking up big time.

[dom9]

Exactly.

It's as Morten says, speculation, speculation. If I took all the fear-mongering from 'the public domain' to heart, I would only ever leave the house for 15 minutes a day, have anti-rocket missiles on my roof, wear an oxygen mask at all times etc. etc. etc.

That's a bit harsh on Rocket isn't it?

[Tom]

to be honest fella, i don't need you trying to patronise me, i'm an inteligent lad, so you carry on, and i'll email some folks who know what they are talking about, and get their opinion.

talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Jeez.

[Guest]

I've known Tom for years as well fredo and I must say I've always valued his opinions.

And fair enough, you say 'it's clear that something is wrong', but until these things peter out, I'm not going to start agreeing to all these apocalypse type posts that are coming out. And that's my god-damn right.

Things has already started to 'peter out' mate. It's just a question of will it continue to do so or will some sense prevail now.