Wigan Post Match

[Guest]

Fine mate

Happy with your Avatar change too

ook I'm waiting for one of the "**** of Mourinho" crew to explain their strong objections. If it's purely doubts about his ability then fine, i have doubts about Rafa's ability but I don't think it's an insult to have him at the club.

Sorry for going ott later too mate. I just need to find a stable woman to prevent me from logging in here after matches.

As for avatar bit, it was never meant to rile people off. I was pissed off the other day that's why it was still there.

[thesilverfoxlfc]

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You'd think wouldnt you Charlie, maybe he'll be forced to change

He needs a proper right hand man

[Red Chilli]

I wouldn't know about "an insult to the history and traditions of the club" but I do think it's an insult to our manager Rafa. That's the individual's prerogative but, given the relationship Rafa had with him, I think it's insulting (and treacherous!) to our gaffer.

Clearly not everyone has to feel the same way.

OK, I can se that. Rafa's fat pay cheque is my justification for me to expect more from him, so if you feel I'm insulting him then I can live with that.

[Shaggy]

Interesting stuff shags, you mention about winning and how you like it.

But the man who seems to win as a habit (mourinho) makes you sick.

Choose choose choose!!!

It's not about winning! I don't like his style of football, simple as that! I don't want to see Liverpool FC playing Mourinho's brand of football, under any circumstances.

[Johnny]

Liverpool under Jose would be a Liverpool i`d not enjoy watching.His teams are dirty cheating cunts and i`d have difficulty supporting his "Brand" off Football.It`s never been and never should be our way.

[Craig_H]

(evidence for Rafa winning league) - Yes there is - he managed 82 points 2 years ago. That would have won the premiership more often than not.

He's realised he can't drop his best players. Now he'll realise he can't **** around with formations. Unfortunately, we're still a work in progress, but I still have faith that we can win this ****ing league in the next 2-3 years.

82 points wont win you the league. It'd probably be something like 8 points too little.

In years gone by maybe, not anymore. The standard and levels of consistency achieved by title winners are higher than 82 points.

[disco]

How's it wrong?

When has he ever proved that he can make a genuine Premier League title challenge? The answer is he hasnt.

So in that context, sadly yes, he is a loser.

Aside from emotional attachment and/or pure speculation, you have no basis for disagreeing with that.

As far as cold hard facts are concerned, i'm not wrong.

:cough: - already told you when we did, 2 years ago. Chavski got 95 points unfortunately

[Red Chilli]

Sorry for going ott later too mate. I just need to find a stable woman to prevent me from logging in here after matches.

As for avatar bit, it was never meant to rile people off. I was pissed off the other day that's why it was still there.

Take it easy

[Johnny]

That doesn't explain why it's an insult to the club''s history and traditions.

How much did Mourinho spend to win the title at Chavski? 89 million give or take. Check the facts
How much did Mourinho spend at Porto?

I`ve lost any respect i had before for you and will end this convo with you before it goes sour.

[JCase]

I love Masher but I don't think there was need to play a holding midfielder at home. The impetus should have been to send out an attacking side and steamroll Wigan in the 1st half. Oh well, next season again I guess

[disco]

82 points wont win you the league. It'd probably be something like 8 points too little.

In years gone by maybe, not anymore. The standard and levels of consistency achieved by title winners are higher than 82 points.

45 points in last 19 games that year....

We're there - this is the best squad in years. We just need 1-2 more world class players and a settled system, may be 2 settled systems for away games.

[Craig_H]

:cough: - already told you when we did, 2 years ago. Chavski got 95 points unfortunately

Yes they did and that's the kind of level that wins the title. 82 points, as i've said, isnt really close to being enough.

[Guest]

How's it wrong?

When has he ever proved that he can make a genuine Premier League title challenge? The answer is he hasnt.

So in that context, sadly yes, he is a loser.

Aside from emotional attachment and/or pure speculation, you have no basis for disagreeing with that.

As far as cold hard facts are concerned, i'm not wrong.

I think you're wrong Syd. He's got a 5 year contract. Why 5 years ?

It's not a cast iron certainty anyone will win us the league. It is much easier if we can compete like for like money wise with United or Chelsea.

Rafa has bought a lot of young players to try to implement a blueprint in the long term. It's a vision he has and we should support it. Not winning the league this season doesn't make him a loser.

Give him until the end of his contract. That's how things should be. We aren't Fulham or Newcastle.

[Craig_H]

45 points in last 19 games that year....

We're there - this is the best squad in years. We just need 1-2 more world class players and a settled system, may be 2 settled systems for away games.

You can keep saying that we're there - but we're clearly not.

Your basis for that statement is opinion and speculating.

Mine is cold hard facts and numbers. We are not there, we're not even close.

[Red Chilli]

Liverpool under Jose would be a Liverpool i`d not enjoy watching.His teams are dirty cheating cunts and i`d have difficulty supporting his "Brand" off Football.It`s never been and never should be our way.

What's his brand of football?

No offence but how long have you been watching LFC? (Genuine question)

As for dirty and cheating, well without naming names ALL premiership footballers will cheat if they think they can get away with it, that's life i'm afraid. Dirty? Well that's up to the individuals, I doubt a manager influences how dirty a player is.