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    #106
    Originally posted by fredo View Post
    Well this is it. This forum has lost the plot completely and even respected posters are going rash. This is baffling. We battered Wigan today and played one of our best game in of the season at home and people are aiming at Rafa's head for us drawing from a fluke goal.

    It's not because we played with 2 holding midfielders that we've drawn, it's because we couldn't score from clear cut chances, a familiar failing this season.
    I think you're confusing Torres running his heart out trying to drag us to victory with the rest of the team. Torres was exceptional tonight, did everything he could to get us a result, but the guy was isolated because of the tactics employed by Rafa.

    Owen so frequently papered over the cracks for Houllier. Torres is doing the same for Rafa but alarmingly this is just months into his career at the club, not years as was the case with Michael.

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      #107
      its rafa's fault as i've already stated on other threads as he buys the **** players, puts out **** line ups, plays **** bring negative formations and lacks passion to lead us to Premier glory......GET MOURINHO IN NOW!!!!
      People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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        #108
        Originally posted by Red Chilli View Post
        I wonder if there's a reason for it
        Originally posted by Operation View Post
        Out of the title chase by the 2nd Jan. What do you expect?
        Well such comments are the reason. Red Chilli of all posters thinking like rashid. As for operation, no comment.

        Originally posted by disco View Post
        Fredo - yes we created a lot, but some of our defending was comical, and some of our passing was terrible. Did more than enough to win, but it was by no means our best home performance.
        You were pissed I'm sure.

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          #109
          Why do people keep insisting it's not Rafa's fault. Ultimately he is the manager, he buys the players, he coaches them, he decides on tactics and he picks the team. Rafa has to shoulder the blame as well. Is it not his fault that he takes off a winger and puts on Kuyt. Is it not his fault we started with one striker. Is it not his fault that we are so timid at times. Is it not his fault we have so many CM and not one decent winger.

          Its the same old story and nothing has changed. 8 draws already this season suggests we are about as positive as a glass of water.

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            #110
            Originally posted by Owen20 View Post
            I know you as well as anyone REDS mate, and I know your fuming right now, but the sad thing is, you are probably right

            I like many on here, am ****ing fuming, and to be honest, I dont give a **** about what anyone thinks of what I say!
            So many things aint going right Phil mate its getting too much, I try to refrain from swearing infront of the kiddas but today was the last straw.
            A change in the summer is going to happen, I feel. Manager & players wise. Sad but true mate.
            18-5-7-8-3

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              #111
              fredo if you want to have a pop at me, do it via PM, no-one else want to read your billy big-bollocks digs at me.

              Keep it focused on the team/club/situation and stop having a go at individuals.
              Originally posted by Gordon Brown
              (1995)
              "A weak currency is the sign of a weak economy,which is the sign of a weak government"

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                #112
                Im not happy with anything at this moment, I dont like the yanks, disappointed with Rafa, ****ing hate Sky, pissed off with all players apart from Torres.

                The thai fella would have been a better bet.
                RAFA

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                  #113
                  Originally posted by bigfooty View Post
                  I think you're confusing Torres running his heart out trying to drag us to victory with the rest of the team. Torres was exceptional tonight, did everything he could to get us a result, but the guy was isolated because of the tactics employed by Rafa.

                  Owen so frequently papered over the cracks for Houllier. Torres is doing the same for Rafa but alarmingly this is just months into his career at the club, not years as was the case with Michael.
                  Just think we're we'd be without Gerrard and Torres.

                  It scares the living daylights out of me.
                  I hate Polanski

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                    #114
                    I don't want to get drawn into any arguments, but i don't see how people are blaming Rafa for todays loss.

                    We played three, yes three attacking midfielders.

                    If Kuyt had of played up front i guarantee you people would be whinging about that.

                    Rafa has made mistakes in his time, but today was not one of them.

                    A team consisting of Alonso, Kewell, Gerrard, Torres and Mascherano should be well capable of battering a team like Wigan.
                    On the Ning Nang Nong
                    Where the Cows go Bong!
                    And the Monkeys all say Boo!
                    There's a Nong Nang Ning
                    Where the trees go Ping!
                    And the tea pots Jibber Jabber Joo.
                    On the Nong Ning Nang
                    All the mice go Clang!
                    And you just can't catch 'em when they do!
                    So it's Ning Nang Nong!
                    Cows go Bong!
                    Nong Nang Ning!
                    Trees go Ping!
                    Nong Ning Nang!
                    The mice go clang!
                    What a noisy place to belong,
                    Is the Ning Nang Ning Nang Nong!!

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                      #115
                      you need to take your goggles off Fredo. You really think Rafa shouldn't be blamed? Ship going down, you blame the passengers, you blame the bar workers? You blame the captain. With great power comes great responsibility. Rafa needs to win the FA Cup and Champions League double to save his job.
                      Last edited by MrMichael; 02-01-08, 11:32 PM.

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                        #116
                        Originally posted by fredo View Post
                        Well such comments are the reason. Red Chilli of all posters thinking like rashid. As for operation, no comment.



                        You were pissed I'm sure.
                        The team was booed off the pitch FFS.
                        Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom- 2 years 1year 0.5 years

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                          #117
                          without torres and gerrard we would be newcastle utd.....bottom table ****e!!!
                          People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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                            #118
                            Originally posted by CharlieMansonsSquint View Post
                            Just think we're we'd be without Gerrard and Torres.

                            It scares the living daylights out of me.
                            Dont even go there mate
                            El Niño

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                              #119
                              Originally posted by fredo View Post
                              Well this is it. This forum has lost the plot completely and even respected posters are going rash. This is baffling. We battered Wigan today and played one of our best game in of the season at home and people are aiming at Rafa's head for us drawing from a fluke goal.

                              It's not because we played with 2 holding midfielders that we've drawn, it's because we couldn't score from clear cut chances, a familiar failing this season.
                              12 points behind Fredo, a lucky win against Derby and a point against one of the other relegation lot today. Its not just this result and for me, it was down to us having 2 holding midfielders tonight, there was no need.

                              Crouch and Torres up front and there would have been more targets and natural goal scorers in the box.My opinion only, but one up front against Wigan was madness. Yes we missed a couple of chances, they also came very close to another goal themselves.

                              Wigan lost 2-0 away to Arsenal, 4-1 away to Bolton, 3-2 away to Birmingham, 4-0 away to Manu, 2-1 away to Reading, 1-0 away to Newcastle, yet we played with Torres on his own with Gerrard in a makeshift formation with 2 Strikers on the bench.....

                              "If Gerrard continues to play up front, leaving this lack of creativity and intelligence in Midfield, the season WILL be over by Xmas."

                              I still don't think we'll finish in the top 4 this season."

                              FatTony 24/08/09

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                                #120
                                Originally posted by ningnangnong View Post
                                Spot on Fredo, i've never seen the forum this bad.
                                The forum is a representation of the fans. You heard the boos tonight mate, Rafa's support is waning. We're no closer to winning the PL now than we were when he joined us.

                                Fighting for 4th ain't good enough, fighting for 1st will be satisfactory. But even then, 2nd won't be good enough after a while. We want the title, we need it, Rafa CANNOT deliver it. He's had 3.5 seasons to show almost no improvement to our league placing.

                                The CL was incredible but it's the PL we need, he hasn't got it in him.

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