Mourinho 'keen on Benitez's job'

[Red_Al_77]

Only if we had about 15 world class players, thus enabling Rafa to rotate but even with the lack of consistency in the team selections, the chances are that the world class players' quality would still be enough to win the games, regardless of chopping and changing.

So we'd win in spite of him and not because of him?

[Red Chilli]

So in reality you are saying no matter who we sign in the future Rafa cannot make a PL winning team out of them?

He can, sure he can, he has the ability, but he needs to adapt his philosophy to the premiership. His fundamental philosophy is not condusive to winning the premier league in my opinion.

I've been accused of many things in this thread, all water off a ducks back, including championing Mourinho's cause and defending his abhorent actions.

nothing would give me more pleasure than to see Rafa turn it around but I honestly am starting to think he'd rather fail and get sacked than admit he needs to change.

[Craig_H]

So we'd win in spite of him and not because of him?

I guess it would be yes.

Seriously mate, the stability and consistency of a settled side is invaluable, it's immense.

Rafa completely removes any chance of us enjoying the benefits of this though.

[Craig_H]

He can, sure he can, he has the ability, but he needs to adapt his philosophy to the premiership. His fundamental philosophy is not condusive to winning the premier league in my opinion.

I've been accused of many things in this thread, all water off a ducks back, including championing Mourinho's cause and defending his abhorent actions.

nothing would give me more pleasure than to see Rafa turn it around but I honestly am starting to think he'd rather fail and get sacked than admit he needs to change.

I dont think he'd 'rather' get sacked, but if it comes to accepting his ways dont work and changing them to avoid the sack - i dont think he would.

[G]

Rafa does my head in sometimes and he and players share blame for our current form but he still has my support and will have until at least next season by which time he should have been backed by the owners with the funds required to buy the 2 or 3 more top drawer attacking players that we need.Then and only then can we judge.To be honest it really is a fine line between success and failure,if we had one more Torres like player and some good wingers many of the draws we've had could have been wins and we'd now be in the thick of it.Were not that far away.

Oh and **** OFF MOURINHO

[Red Chilli]

I dont think he'd 'rather' get sacked, but if it comes to accepting his ways dont work and changing them to avoid the sack - i dont think he would.

Isn't that the same thing?

[Red_Al_77]

He can, sure he can, he has the ability, but he needs to adapt his philosophy to the premiership. His fundamental philosophy is not condusive to winning the premier league.

I'd say his tactics need to change, but that he'll only learn that through trial and error and that means pain. It's whether as fans we are prepared to experience that pain or hope he leaves. I am prepared for more pain in the hope he gets it right but I fear the powers that be are looking only at the here and now.

[sonsofthedesert]

I guess it would be yes.

Seriously mate, the stability and consistency of a settled side is invaluable, it's immense.

Rafa completely removes any chance of us enjoying the benefits of this though.

So how come utd and Arsenal rotate their players just as much but they still win? Is it because there is more quality or ?

[Red_Al_77]

I guess it would be yes.

Seriously mate, the stability and consistency of a settled side is invaluable, it's immense.

Rafa completely removes any chance of us enjoying the benefits of this though.

Couldn't agree more.

[Red Chilli]

I'd say his tactics need to change, but that he'll only learn that through trial and error and that means pain. It's whether as fans we are prepared to experience that pain or hope he leaves. I am prepared for more pain in the hope he gets it right but I fear the powers that be are looking only at the here and now.

How long does he need to experiment for? Seriously? 38 games a season, 3 and a half seasons gone and he's still making the same fundamental "schoolboy" errors of judgement.

[Red_Al_77]

So how come utd and Arsenal rotate their players just as much but they still win? Is it because there is more quality or ?

A stable side is a better side but you can rotate if you have the quality. They do, we don't, so as fans the only solution for Liverpool is to play our best XI. Rafa obviously thinks based on training etc that his squad is good enough but that is yet to be proven.

[sonsofthedesert]

Couldn't agree more.

Yeah but all the top sides rotate as much as each other, Rafa's problem come down to things like 1 striker up front against Wigan. That should never have happend, also I think more than a settled side we should be thinking about a settled formation and rotation within that.

[Red Chilli]

Thing is though, Rafa is the only one who randomly rotates his formations.

[sonsofthedesert]

A stable side is a better side but you can rotate if you have the quality. They do, we don't, so as fans the only solution for Liverpool is to play our best XI. Rafa obviously thinks based on training etc that his squad is good enough but that is yet to be proven.

Yeah so a few more world class players will help him. As I have stated as well a settled formtion with rotation within it will help the players as they will know instinctively where they are within the formation.

[Craig_H]

So how come utd and Arsenal rotate their players just as much but they still win? Is it because there is more quality or ?

Because they dont make 5 or 6 (or more) changes virtually EVERY game.

And when they make changes, they do it intelligently. Anyone can see that inferior players wont do the job for the trickier games. Home games against relegation fodder, you can rest one or two key players (not half the team).

Rafa rotates as a rule and in a big way, regardless of opposition.