Is this an indicator of how big Rafa's job is to catch Utd and co?

[AFII]

it was a secure limbo though, i'd much rather be in the "moores" limbo than an "american" limbo

continued pressure and media hype contributed to the selling of the club in the manor it did

The deadline from the City and EU contributed to selling the club in the manor it did. One bid on the table with only weeks left before the deadline.

If the deadline hadn't been there then Moores would probably have continued to search for the right investors to sell to IMO.

[Guest]

Ehm...We DID stagnate financially compared to the others on Moores' watch, whether you like it or not, nice fella or not.

That's why he hired Parry, to replace Peter Robinson, who was the mastermind of many a groundbreaking deal (such as the first shirt sponsorship in England). Moores was the one who financed some of our transfer deals, and his job wasn't to devise scenarios to catch up on our rivals. Parry and Co were.

[Pacman]

Ehm...We DID stagnate financially compared to the others on Moores' watch, whether you like it or not, nice fella or not.

Compared with who?

United were lucky that they were top of the tree when the big bucks started rolling into the English game. We all know what happened to Chelsea and Arsenal managed to recruit one the the best managers ever to have walked this earth. We on the other hand couldn't find the right man to take us where we needed to be on the pitch. Moores always made money available, we always had money to sign players but nearly 2 decades without winning the league is going to take it's toll on the club.

One thing is for sure our club wouldn't be the ****ing circus it is now under him.

[Rocket]

Compared with who?

United were lucky that they were top of the tree when the big bucks started rolling into the English game. We all know what happened to Chelsea and Arsenal managed to recruit one the the best managers ever to have walked this earth. We on the other hand couldn't find the right man to take us where we needed to be on the pitch. Moores always made money available, we always had money to sign players but nearly 2 decades without winning the league is going to take it's toll on the club.

One thing is for sure our club wouldn't be the ****ing circus it is now under him.

houllier always had money to spend, can't blame moores, parry, jesus or anyone on the ****e we ended up buying.

salif diao, 5 million

[AFII]

Compared with who?

United were lucky that they were top of the tree when the big bucks started rolling into the English game. We all know what happened to Chelsea and Arsenal managed to recruit one the the best managers ever to have walked this earth. We on the other hand couldn't find the right man to take us where we needed to be on the pitch. Moores always made money available, we always had money to sign players but nearly 2 decades without winning the league is going to take it's toll on the club.

One thing is for sure our club wouldn't be the ****ing circus it is now under him.

No it wouldn't but we wouldn't have a chance to win the league either. We would be fighting very hard season after season to get a CL place.

[AFII]

houllier always had money to spend, can't blame moores, parry, jesus or anyone on the ****e we ended up buying.

salif diao, 5 million

Maybe Houllier thought that Diao was the best he could get for that price when he couldn't afford to sign a £15m+ midfielder?

Houllier always had money to spend but the club payed for them(debts), not Moores.

[Dalglish]

. We would be fighting very hard season after season to get a CL place.

And there was me thinking we have been doing that for the last few tears anyway

[tomasjj]

other than the mancs, everyone did.

Not really Arsenal. They got stingy and pooled their moneys towards the future - a new stadium.

Chavs...yes. That is a special case we have to exclude.

[Pacman]

No it wouldn't but we wouldn't have a chance to win the league either. We would be fighting very hard season after season to get a CL place.

Bollocks mate.

How much has the current Arsenal team cost to assemble? You don't need lots of money to win the league you need a little money, a ****ing good manager and a stable board room.

I bet that the current Arsenal squad cost less that £50 mil to build so you are talking out of your arse mate.

[AFII]

And there was me thinking we have been doing that for the last few tears anyway

I don't agree with that. We have finished in a very safe third position the last two seasons without really be close to finish outside the top four.

[Guest]

Bollocks mate.

How much has the current Arsenal team cost to assemble? You don't need lots of money to win the league you need a little money, a ****ing good manager and a stable board room.

I bet that the current Arsenal squad cost less that £50 mil to build so you are talking out of your arse mate.

Mate, 50m pounds on 15/16 years old is a lot of money. The risk is much higher unless you buy the best around in each position.

[Rocket]

Not really Arsenal. They got stingy and pooled their moneys towards the future - a new stadium.

Chavs...yes. That is a special case we have to exclude.

fella, if you look at Arsenal, Wengers incredible transfer policy helped them massively, he was given average amounts of money, and bought world class players, and then often sold them for millions.

under moores, we would eventually have had a decent stadium, not far off the standard of the emirates.

we've just never had a manager of Wengers ability.

[AFII]

Bollocks mate.

How much has the current Arsenal team cost to assemble? You don't need lots of money to win the league you need a little money, a ****ing good manager and a stable board room.

I bet that the current Arsenal squad cost less that £50 mil to build so you are talking out of your arse mate.

and Arsenal have the last seasons had to fight very hard to qualify for the CL.

[tomasjj]

fella, if you look at Arsenal, Wengers incredible transfer policy helped them massively, he was given average amounts of money, and bought world class players, and then often sold them for millions.

under moores, we would eventually have had a decent stadium, not far off the standard of the emirates.

we've just never had a manager of Wengers ability.

That would have been great. But there was no indication that it would happen. It just kept dragging on, and eventually Moores resigned to the fact that they couldn't do it alone. Sadly, cause this circus we have now is sickening.

Yes. I agree that Wenger did help them out, even if his transfer policy isn't as rosy as most like to claim nowadays when he does so well.

[Pacman]

Mate, 50m pounds on 15/16 years old is a lot of money. The risk is much higher unless you buy the best around in each position.

It's not about that though is it.

Wenger has proven it can be done you just need to be ****ing good at your job. So AFII living in FM2008 thinking you need 100's of millions to win the league is talking about of his arse.