How are we ever gonna challenge the Mancs, Chelsea or Arsenal?

[Howard_lfc]

maybe he could if he could have the players he really wanted, i'm sure he'd love to go out and buy a few wingers and a striker but of course funds won't allow

Morph - who's gonna give him money to spend on more players when he doesn't know what to do with the ones he's already got? Neverming getting the best out of them either.

I feel like I should wear a bell around me neck and walk around shouting 'Unclean! Unclean!' but I really feel things need to change; they simply cannot continue the way we've been going.

I can't help but feel that the players are confused as hell. They're miles better than they're showing but for whatever reason they're not doing it. And I'm not buying into all the boardroom bollocks either.

[bigfooty]

Rafa has a defined style, i'm sure he knows his best formations, that 125 net is it

Ferguson spent 8M net in the Summer of 2006 and won the title.

Wenger's title-challenging side at the moment has been assembled spending far less net than Rafa.

What's your point?

[bigfooty]

maybe he could if he could have the players he really wanted, i'm sure he'd love to go out and buy a few wingers and a striker but of course funds won't allow

So that 6M had to spend on a defender then? Nobody in World Football who could have improved our attacking options at that price?

[Morph]

So that 6M had to spend on a defender then? Nobody in World Football who could have improved our attacking options at that price?

possibly but it would have been a gamble ala pennant, and we obviously really needed a defender, so surely what you should be saying is, rafa is restricted to only being able to bring in 1 player

[Morph]

Ferguson spent 8M net in the Summer of 2006 and won the title.

Wenger's title-challenging side at the moment has been assembled spending far less net than Rafa.

What's your point?

Fergusson has been able to build his team for many years, as has Wenger, you know as well as i do they have more money to spend what was fergusons net in the summer of 2007, seeing as you are so knowlegeable in this field

[TheRedDragon]

Ferguson spent 8M net in the Summer of 2006 and won the title.



What's your point?

How much as Ferguson spent over the last decade?

£20m Van Nistlerooy
£25m Veron
£28m Ferdinand
£23m Rooney
£13m Ronaldo
£12m Stam
£17m Carrick
£21m Anderson
£17m Nani

and many many more massive transfer fees. There team as been one built over the past 5/6 years with the money Rafa has only had at his disposal for 1 Transfer Window.


Wenger is a complete and utter genius when it comes to scouting young talent. How ever he has been with Arsenal for 10 years now and has spent a considerable amount buying young talent that are now starting to blossom.

[JohnDoe]

Ferguson spent 8M net in the Summer of 2006 and won the title.

Wenger's title-challenging side at the moment has been assembled spending far less net than Rafa.

What's your point?

Completely ignoring the huge amount spent on the squad Ferguson has already had.

Wenger's side is a product of his youth policy, which took a very long time to perfect.

[Morph]

Completely ignoring the huge amount spent on the squad Ferguson has already had.

Wenger's side is a product of his youth policy, which took a very long time to perfect.

don't let the facts get in the way of a good stat mate

[Joe King]

The only way we can challenge is mo money, mo money, mo money.

Money guarantees quality. Quality guarantees better football. Name me one club who haven't spent money that have won the Premiership.

Scum- loadsa money
Blackburn- loadsa money
Arsenal- load/ decent money
Chavs- loads and loads of money

[Darth Marty]

How much as Ferguson spent over the last decade?

£20m Van Nistlerooy
£25m Veron
£28m Ferdinand
£23m Rooney
£13m Ronaldo
£12m Stam
£17m Carrick
£21m Anderson
£17m Nani

The thing is I think we could have spent far wiser. I understand the need for squad players but I really think we have gone overboard, I mean Pennant and say Benyaoun would equate to a Ronaldo. Kuyt & Crouch would mean a Rooney.

I dont know, all I want is to wake up back in 1975. 16 glorious years in front of me

[bigfooty]

Wenger's side is a product of his youth policy, which took a very long time to perfect.

Yer wrong there actually. The majority - in fact all but Toure I think - of the players who played against us earlier in the season at Anfield had either been signed in the Summer Rafa arrived or since then. They were definitely not prospects that had come through the ranks after years of nuturing.

[Joe King]

Wengers side is all bought. None of his side are from the actual youth system.

[JohnDoe]

The thing is I think we could have spent far wiser. I understand the need for squad players but I really think we have gone overboard, I mean Pennant and say Benyaoun would equate to a Ronaldo. Kuyt & Crouch would mean a Rooney.

I dont know, all I want is to wake up back in 1975. 16 glorious years in front of me

But Pennant and Benayoun were not signed at the same time. Pennant was signed when we had £20m but needed to sign TWO strikers and a right winger.

Kuyt and Crouch were not signed at the same time with the same budget. Rafa didn't have £20m to spend on a world class striker, and said: "Nah, I'll get Crouch and Kuyt instead for that money". When he did have £20m to spend on a striker in a transfer window, he got Torres.

[Darth Marty]

Thats a shortsighted answer, well, actually its a shortsighted vision from the owners, whether it be moores or the americans, when we do need a player ****ing do it properly at the first time of asking not **** about over 2 or 3 seasons buying 2nd or 3rd choices.
In most walks of life people say something along the lines of "more haste less speed" well its relevant to our ****ing players too.....at present (ok, give the yanks the benefit of the doubt with Torres and it being their only window so far) we buy squad players not world class, and the funny thing is we spend the same amount of cash! Its ridiculous, **** it then, dont spend a single penny from now until summer 2009 and then lets blow £75-£100 mill on our first choice players. Its not as if our seasons arent getting wasted anyway.

[MascheredUp]

My guess is if Rafa had the same budget as the likes of Mourinho and Ferguson in the last four years, he wouldn't have signed at least half of the players currently in the squad or the one's that have been moved on.