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    Liverpool debt dispute forces Americans to consider sale

    Liverpool debt dispute forces Americans to consider sale
    By Nick Harris and Jason Burt
    Published: 16 January 2008

    A dispute between Liverpool's American owners and the club's board over whether to laden the club with massive debts has cast fresh doubt over Tom Hicks and George Gillett's future at Anfield as new rumours circulated yesterday that they have agreed a deal to sell up.

    One source, a major football financier, claimed last night that Hicks and Gillett had agreed a deal in principle to sell the club, which they co-own, for £350m, and that a process of due diligence was under way.

    The potential buyers most consistently linked with Liverpool in recent months are Dubai International Capital, an investment vehicle ultimately controlled by Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid al-Maktoum, one of the world's richest men. DIC came close to buying Liverpool a year ago and are certainly still circling, although the source suggested that a different investor – or partnership – might be behind the £350m bid. A DIC spokeswoman said: "We can only say 'no comment' at this stage."

    Insiders at Liverpool denied a deal had been concluded with DIC, or that any due diligence was underway. Equally, both Hicks and the club maintain in private that Hicks, at least, is an unwilling seller, to anyone, at the moment.

    However, a senior source at Liverpool told The Independent that "it is difficult to say categorically what is going on" and it is understood there is a growing schism between the board – which is trying to run the club on a day-to-day basis – and the owners.

    The source of this rift is money, specifically a divergence of opinion about how Hicks and Gillett will restructure their finances. When they bought Liverpool last year, they paid for the club entirely with borrowed money, in the form of a £270m loan from the Royal Bank of Scotland. Of that, £174.1m was spent on equity, £44.8m on pre-existing debt, and the balance on working capital. The RBS loan is due to be repaid next month.

    The Americans' representatives insist they are close to securing a new £350m loan, most of which will clear their first loan, with the rest spent on initial outlay on the proposed new stadium. The businessmen want to put the new debt directly on to Liverpool's books, guaranteed, crucially, against club assets, not their own.

    Contrary to reports, the so-called "global credit crunch" has not been a significant factor in delaying a new loan. Rather, according to a well-placed source, "the very significant block" to the Americans' borrowing plans has been the board's opposition to heaping that debt on the club.

    When Hicks and Gillett took over, they made much of the fact, referring to events at Manchester United two years beforehand, that theirs would not be a "Glazer-style" takeover, with the club potentially imperilled by debt set against its assets. Now, it seems, that is exactly what they were planning. Neither has spent any of their own cash yet. Unless they guarantee the new loans with their own money – which they may be unwilling or unable to provide – the impasse will continue.

    In that sense, a buyer offering them £350m for their 100 per cent stake could well be attractive. It would allow them to repay their £270m RBS loan and walk away with an £80m profit between them after just a year's involvement. Yet as recently as last autumn, they were valuing the club at an extraordinary £1bn, a figure unrelated to financial reality.

    Hicks and Gillett's relationship with the board is rapidly becoming as fractious as that with their manager, Rafa Benitez, upon whom they heaped huge embarrassment on Monday when Hicks revealed he had interviewed Jürgen Klinsmann in November as a stand-by candidate for Benitez's job.

    "You might be able to make a case that they let Rafa know this had happened," said one exasperated Liverpool source. "But what on earth Hicks thought he would achieve by telling the world is beyond anyone."

    Until the Americans have either resolved their financing problems or sold the club, plans for the new stadium, like Benitez's future, will remain up in the air.

    http://sport.independent.co.uk/footb...cle3342139.ece
    Just believe and you never know what will happen.

    According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

    #2
    Lack of knowledge forces papers to speculate.
    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
    -- William Blake

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      #3
      A Press report.I`ll Wait and see.

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        #4
        Originally posted by dww View Post
        Lack of knowledge forces papers to speculate.
        and me to masturbate if true

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          #5
          Speculative. One can only hope that they sell and bugger off.

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            #6
            Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
            and me to masturbate if true
            Yeah ya love DIC though don't ya?
            I hate Polanski

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              #7
              Originally posted by CharlieMansonsSquint View Post
              Yeah ya love DIC though don't ya?

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                #8
                something i'm not sure of here, if the yanks can't refinance, what happens to the club? does it defer to RBS seeing as they gave the loan, and then they'll just look for the best offer?

                also makes you wonder if a deal really is close and Hicks just thinks well **** it i'll say whats been happening because i won't be here in a few weeks time, and also maybe explaining the delayed stadium decision. possibly
                Thomas Hicks Senior

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                  #9
                  Wasnt Hicks saying the other day he had two banks willing to lend the money or something to that effect on an American TV station?
                  Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                  'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                  "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                  * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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                    #10
                    I guess it's a case of wait and see but I'm pretty sure that if there was due dilligence being conducted on the clubs books more than one paper would know about it.

                    The three letters of DIC neve seem to be far away though, do they?
                    Last edited by kurtangle01; 16-01-08, 01:51 AM.
                    Babel fanclub member # 4!!!

                    **** OFF MOURINHO!!!!!!:whatever:

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                      Wasnt Hicks saying the other day he had two banks willing to lend the money or something to that effect on an American TV station?
                      didn't hicks also say he was going to build us a fantastic stadium that we saw pics of, and didn't hicks also say that he fully backed rafa and rafa's plan, are you seeing a theme here?
                      Thomas Hicks Senior

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                        Wasnt Hicks saying the other day he had two banks willing to lend the money or something to that effect on an American TV station?


                        but it's a bit difficult to believe anything he says anymore. He has talked out of his ass and lied so many times that you simply can't believe what he says anymore.
                        Just believe and you never know what will happen.

                        According to Benitez it's important not simply to go out to win but to go out prepared to win, which means players have to put in the same level of work on a daily basis. Anything else is unacceptable.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bazza76 View Post
                          Wasnt Hicks saying the other day he had two banks willing to lend the money or something to that effect on an American TV station?
                          He was but if he's not being backed by the board (I'm not sure what guarantees David Moores aked for) he might be in a situation where he can't saddle the club with debt.

                          Is it a case of the board has to be in absolute agreement before such a deal can take place?
                          Babel fanclub member # 4!!!

                          **** OFF MOURINHO!!!!!!:whatever:

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                            #14
                            Pltbt
                            Nah. He won't win the Prem. You can quote me on that. - Sarb24

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by kurtangle01 View Post
                              ess it's a case of wait and see but I'm pretty sure that if there was due dilligence being conducted on the clubs books more than one paper would know about it.

                              The three letters of DIC neve seem to be far away though, do they?
                              MAn United is owned by Glaziers, Arsenal has someone already eying up a majority sharholding, Chavs have Abramobitch.
                              DIC will be very interested in LFC, especially after seeing the Scums profits in the last year.
                              Bill shankly to Tommy Smith after he'd turned up for training with a bandaged knee:
                              'Take that poof bandage off, and what do you mean YOUR knee, it's LIVERPOOL'S knee !'

                              "Sorry, boss, I should have kept my legs together," said Lawrence. "No, Tommy, your mother should have kept her legs together!," replied Shankly.

                              * After Tommy Lawrence had let in a fluke goal between his legs

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