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    #46
    Originally posted by le2red View Post
    Not sure this is "The Liverpool way" either.

    It was noticeable that the RTK efforts to get "the club's in the wrong hands" song going wasn't widely taken up by the rest of the Kop, whereas all efforts to sing Rafa's name was.
    thats only cos nobody could figure out the words though. i think the sentiment is shared by most, which is why even rafa's critics (eg me) were singing rafa benitez loudly with the rest of them.

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      #47
      Originally posted by le2red View Post
      There are various ways to protest though, I don't think followoing the Newcastle/Spurs route is the way to go personally. Also find it a bit hypocritical for RTK (or whoever) to want to protest about the Americans not doing things "The Liverpool way" by using methods which are also not "The Liverpool way".
      When was it not the Liverpool way to protest against liars, frauds, cheats and asset strippers?

      This city was built on rebellion. We simply haven't had to do it in the football arena before, but we've done it everywhere else.

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        #48
        Originally posted by Armchairkopite View Post
        Foster will pay heh heh heh.
        That's definately the plan. He'll be at the sharp end.

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          #49
          Originally posted by alunevans View Post
          When was it not the Liverpool way to protest against liars, frauds, cheats and asset strippers?

          This city was built on rebellion. We simply haven't had to do it in the football arena before, but we've done it everywhere else.
          Liverpool has a rebel heart (new song title for you Alun ).

          I fully support the RTK statement. We need to mobilise through the match growing crowd, the broadcast media and the net.

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            #50
            Originally posted by Tom View Post
            Liverpool has a rebel heart (new song title for you Alun ).

            I fully support the RTK statement. We need to mobilise through the match growing crowd, the broadcast media and the net.

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              #51
              Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
              In what way?
              the rtk boys dont like jester hats, dont like outsiders and dont like anybody who doesnt behave how they think a liverpool fan should.

              Dont get me wrong - RTK is a good idea as i know for a fact many liverpool fans under the age of 25 or even 30 and outside of liverpool might not understand the clubs values or its heritage.

              Our sense of fair play is one of the things that stands us apart from the other clubs' supporters and one of the RTK lads came out and said that during a champions league match against bordeaux - we were singing 'who are ya, who are ya' and generally being disrespectful towards opposing fans who had travelled hundreds of miles and spent a lot of money to come support their team and see our mythical anfield.

              That wasnt the liverpool way and that some of the newer fans didnt understand what it meant to be a liverpool fan. The RTK boys want to bring back the glory days of the kop but have a fairly strict view on liverpool fans.

              I dont think that the Kop will ever be the same as some of the people who made it so famous have moved on and yet its still one of the most widely respected things about Liverpool.

              RTK should be about inclusion of everybody from all walks of life and not exclusion.
              [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                #52
                Originally posted by el matador View Post
                the rtk boys dont like jester hats Yer Wha?, dont like outsiders Great generalisation there fella, you should be a journalistand dont like anybody who doesnt behave how they think a liverpool fan should. And whats wrong with that?

                Dont get me wrong - RTK is a good idea as i know for a fact many liverpool fans under the age of 25 or even 30 and outside of liverpool might not understand the clubs values or its heritage.

                Our sense of fair play is one of the things that stands us apart from the other clubs' supporters and one of the RTK lads came out and said that during a champions league match against bordeaux - we were singing 'who are ya, who are ya' Nothing winds me up more at anfield than to hear thisand generally being disrespectful towards opposing fans who had travelled hundreds of miles and spent a lot of money to come support their team and see our mythical anfield.

                That wasnt the liverpool way and that some of the newer fans didnt understand what it meant to be a liverpool fan. The RTK boys want to bring back the glory days of the kop but have a fairly strict view on liverpool fans.

                I dont think that the Kop will ever be the same as some of the people who made it so famous have moved on and yet its still one of the most widely respected things about Liverpool.

                RTK should be about inclusion of everybody from all walks of life and not exclusion. Youre getting too deep here mate. They just want the kop to get back to its old standard

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
                  I agree with you in that we all want the Kop back to what it was and that RTK is in essence a great idea. But the face of football has changed and the fans have changed. If someone comes over from China to support Liverpool and to make a day of it - so what if they wear a jester hat and take loads of photos ?

                  Why cant that person have a day that they wont forget for the rest of their lives without people thinking what a tosser - what a ******.

                  This is the kind of stuff that RTK isnt great on. But I agree we all want our Kop back - the atmosphere at some of the games recently has been dreadful. Just cant recognise the place.
                  [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by le2red View Post
                    Not sure this is "The Liverpool way" either.

                    It was noticeable that the RTK efforts to get "the club's in the wrong hands" song going wasn't widely taken up by the rest of the Kop, whereas all efforts to sing Rafa's name was.

                    The club has never been owned by such a pair of ****cunts before though - desperate needs call for desperate measures.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by el matador View Post
                      I agree with you in that we all want the Kop back to what it was and that RTK is in essence a great idea. But the face of football has changed and the fans have changed. If someone comes over from China to support Liverpool and to make a day of it - so what if they wear a jester hat and take loads of photos ?

                      Why cant that person have a day that they wont forget for the rest of their lives without people thinking what a tosser - what a ******.

                      This is the kind of stuff that RTK isnt great on. But I agree we all want our Kop back - the atmosphere at some of the games recently has been dreadful. Just cant recognise the place.
                      Absolutely agree

                      When RTK started, I thought it would be just another OOT campaign. I still think, in a way, is.
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                        #56
                        Originally posted by el matador View Post
                        I agree with you in that we all want the Kop back to what it was and that RTK is in essence a great idea. But the face of football has changed and the fans have changed. If someone comes over from China to support Liverpool and to make a day of it - so what if they wear a jester hat and take loads of photos ?

                        Why cant that person have a day that they wont forget for the rest of their lives without people thinking what a tosser - what a ******.

                        This is the kind of stuff that RTK isnt great on. But I agree we all want our Kop back - the atmosphere at some of the games recently has been dreadful. Just cant recognise the place.
                        ****s sake fella, if you walk into a ground with a jesters hat on and people think you are a tosser you should just be grateful no-one chinned you

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by cobain View Post
                          Absolutely agree

                          When RTK started, I thought it would be just another OOT campaign. I still think, in a way, is.
                          It just looks like a load of fellas singing songs to me

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by [B
                            paulcooper4;901412]****s sake fella, if you walk into a ground with a jesters hat on and people think you are a tosser you should just be grateful no-one chinned you:haha[/B]:


                            or robbed you
                            "People from Liverpool have got something about them and, if they’re not happy about something, they let people know.”
                            Jamie Carragher 15/1/2008

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Revo View Post
                              or robbed you
                              I`d have to tax his hat like

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by paulcooper4 View Post
                                ****s sake fella, if you walk into a ground with a jesters hat on and people think you are a tosser you should just be grateful no-one chinned you
                                every fan has their own personal relationship with their club and express that the way they want. What good does it do to our club if some chinaman got chinned at anfield cos he was wearing a jester hat ?

                                RTK should allow people to express their love for Liverpool in their own way. Christ I wouldnt wear a jester hat but hundreds do. What the ****s wrong with that ?

                                That's what I dont understand about RTK - its like some ****ing private members club. They need to grow up and accept not all fans are going to do what they want. Its not some fekkin old peoples home where you can drug em up and make them do what you want. People have to allowed to love us in the way that they want.
                                [B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]

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