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    Originally posted by blacky View Post
    Do you ever get off the fence?
    Mate, you get the best view from up here, you can see everything.....on both sides.

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      Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
      You're so open-minded that you tell people not to express an opinion :whateverIve never told anyone to express an opinion, just not to expect everyone to support it if they dont want, a very different thing.

      Who has asked for a statement from Hicks, and then derided him for it? Certainly not me.Personally I don't ever want to hear that cunt be mentioned in same breath as Liverpool FC, or ever want him to come out and talk about our club. He thought he was buying a sports franchise, he failed to understand he was getting an institution. The man is not worthy to be the "custodian" of such a great club.

      The concept of integrity is clearly lost on you.
      Coming fom you I'll take that as a compliment!

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        Originally posted by Tom View Post
        That's exactly what I am judging them on. Their previous promises and their record on delivery.
        As someone else on the thread hs already siad I wouldn't trust our owners to deliver a pizza.

        They have already broken many of their initial promises to us and with their track record I can see them doing it again.

        I wouldn't read too much into todays interview which in my view is just a cynical PR erxercise for Hicks.

        He can flap his gob all he wants but I will remain unconvinced until/if he delivers on them.
        A humble guy with healthy desire.

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          Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
          Really? I had you marked down for King of the Fairies.

          About right unless there was a Chief Fairy!

          Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
          I dont really see how this is relevant to anything being discussed here, but I read what everyone has posted on this thread about what he said, and I was willing to take it at face value seeing as it was fellow Reds saying and also seeing as everyone was in agreement about what Hicks said.
          Just wanted to know how you got to your conclusion, nothing sinister.

          Like Assassin said, actions not words will be the only thing that satisfies from now on.
          I don't need a lift, I need ammunition

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            Originally posted by Oberon View Post
            About right unless there was a Chief Fairy!



            Just wanted to know how you got to your conclusion, nothing sinister.

            Like Assassin said, actions not words will be the only thing that satisfies from now on.
            In any case mate, I have since heard the interview on 5 Live just before the Man U - Spurs game. I certainly agree with what others have said on here, he sounded far from convincing, especially the last qn when he was asked if he would consider selling to DIC if they made a big enough bid.
            White liquid in a bottle = Milk

            Purslow = C*nt

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              Originally posted by Alpha View Post


              It couldn't be more obvious that one-way-or-another, he is trying to **** us over and I despair that any self-respecting Liverpool fan will give Hicks enough benefit of the doubt to take his words at face value.


              Can't understand it either, mate!

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                His reasons for wanting to be chairman of Liverpool for years to come was the biggest load of drivel I've heard since the last General Election.

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                  Originally posted by Red_Al_77 View Post
                  His reasons for wanting to be chairman of Liverpool for years to come was the biggest load of drivel I've heard since the last General Election.
                  Wasn't he blabbering on about tv and internet rights when asked about this?
                  White liquid in a bottle = Milk

                  Purslow = C*nt

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                    Originally posted by Tom View Post
                    5 questions to the board.

                    Why did Hicks refuse to talk about how the debt interest to Kop Holdings was to be serviced in this interview? Why should he? Do any other business owners have to reveal all thier financial goings on in detail?

                    Why did Hicks' spokensman during the press conference to announce the re-financing also refuse to answer the question - in fact looked very flustered? See answer above

                    Why did Hick's lie about the initial negotiations with DIC before christmas, when today he's admitted that talks did take place? Did he? Or did he say something along the lines of not entereing into talks about selling out? This alleged meeting last friday....nothing substantive, ie, no takeover/buyout stuff.

                    What happens in 18 months time when we have to re-finance again? Will even more debt be loaded onto the club? Why dont you ask him for next weeks winning lottery numbers while your at it?

                    Why the ****, given the balance of evidence, does anyone believe a word this prick is saying?
                    Who's believing anything? Some of us have better things to do than wail hysterically at the very mention of thier names

                    Tom, I'm no apologist for Hicks or Gillette, nor am I some sort of gullible fool who will take everything they say as gospel. I find a little bit of healthy cynacism always helps. But some people need to stop trying to prove how right they were by sneaking little fibs under he rader in the hope they'll turn into the truth (as beieved by the masses). It seems to me that we've got to be cynical about the words coming fro either side of the fence at the moment.

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                      Originally posted by Tom View Post
                      Well racks up another lie for the fat lying texan.


                      Quote:
                      "I haven't received any offer to purchase the club from the DIC or anyone else, much less accepted any such offer. Nor do I have any intention of doing so.



                      Quote:
                      The Texan admitted speaking to DIC "a few months ago" about a "10% to 15% participation" in the club but DIC felt the price was too high.

                      "They would have been a minority investor and we would have used that capital to build a new stadium. We'll find other ways to capitalise the new stadium,"

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                      Tom. I don't think those quotes are mutually exclusive. They could both apply.

                      Quote one talks about selling the club.

                      Quote two talks about selling a stake in the club.

                      They are different things.
                      Oh I don't know.

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                        Originally posted by Dhavlos View Post
                        Wasn't he blabbering on about tv and internet rights when asked about this?
                        Yep.

                        Nothing about "I want to take us back to the top, winning trophies etc etc"

                        Showed his true colours. Money money money. He's not interested in making Liverpool great again....no I tell a lie, he is, because it'll mean more money for him.

                        Football used to be just about winning. Now its about how much money you make. I feel quite old now and am beginning to slowly lose interest in the 'beautiful game' as the years tick by.

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                          Originally posted by Steve101 View Post
                          Mate, you get the best view from up here, you can see everything.....on both sides.
                          So seeing both sides of the argument what's your take on whats going on so far......do you trust Hicks and believe what he has said?
                          Dare we believe

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                            Originally posted by Steve101 View Post
                            5 questions to the board.

                            Why did Hicks refuse to talk about how the debt interest to Kop Holdings was to be serviced in this interview? Why should he? Do any other business owners have to reveal all thier financial goings on in detail? The question isn't "why should he?" but "why shouldn't he?" Not all business owners have ****ed off their customers to the point that they need the PR of a radio interview.

                            Why did Hicks' spokensman during the press conference to announce the re-financing also refuse to answer the question - in fact looked very flustered? See answer above See answer above.

                            Why did Hick's lie about the initial negotiations with DIC before christmas, when today he's admitted that talks did take place? Did he? Or did he say something along the lines of not entereing into talks about selling out? This alleged meeting last friday....nothing substantive, ie, no takeover/buyout stuff.
                            Originally posted by Tom Hicks
                            "I've not received any offer to purchase the club from DIC or anyone else, much less accepted any such offer."
                            When Hicks made these comments last week, I'm sure he had his reasons for neglecting to mention the 15% talks. But similarly, I will continue to have my reasons for suspecting his absolute lack of transparency.

                            What happens in 18 months time when we have to re-finance again? Will even more debt be loaded onto the club? Why dont you ask him for next weeks winning lottery numbers while your at it? If Hicks has as little responsibility to forecast future refinancing as you suggest, we are as ****ed as I thought we were.
                            It's not good because it's rude. It's good because it looks like it's good because it's rude.

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                              'We could do better, the players know that, Rafa knows that. It's all about how we play and it's time for this club to win.

                              'But we are on our way, we are going to build the greatest stadium, we have a great manager, we have great fans. It's time to put the press frenzy behind us and move down the road.'
                              Lets ****ing get on with this season and get in the top 4 and win the CL and FA Cup.

                              "What in the wide, wide world of sports is a-goin' on around here?" - Taggart AKA Slim Pickens in Blazing Saddles

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                                Originally posted by Steve101 View Post
                                Who's believing anything? Some of us have better things to do than wail hysterically at the very mention of thier names

                                Tom, I'm no apologist for Hicks or Gillette, nor am I some sort of gullible fool who will take everything they say as gospel. I find a little bit of healthy cynacism always helps. But some people need to stop trying to prove how right they were by sneaking little fibs under he rader in the hope they'll turn into the truth (as beieved by the masses). It seems to me that we've got to be cynical about the words coming fro either side of the fence at the moment.
                                Steve, the question about whether the interest payments for Kop holding's part of the debt are being fielded by the club are absolutely crucial. This is not some kind of arcane financial matter, as if we are liable for them we are ****ed as far as liquidity is concerned. The fact that we have no public statement on this from Hick's - despite questions being asked is very concerning.

                                As far as the DIC question is concerned, well you're cutting him a huge amount of slack. In my opinion.
                                Last edited by Tom; 27-01-08, 05:48 PM.

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