DIC latest - the largely wild speculation thread

[kopdan]

so....and help me out here.

IF Hicks cannot get someone to offer Gillett the same price DIC offered within 90 days, DIC can legally buy that share? All 50%?

[AFII]

More from Dmjn....

Well -

Yet another unexpected day of twists & turns.

So Hicks has ended' his negotiations with DIC after 3 of his senior wigs (including his son) met with DIC officials Monday morning in Dubai.

Talks are said to have lasted all of 40 minutes!

The Hicks camp are put out that DIC want things that involve LFC matters "to be managed by committee".

When DIC came out with that demand, that was the end of negotiations.

Again - all is not lost for the Liverpool fans & this is far from over.

Amanda Staveley has leaked' to AP that DIC's next route, far from giving up, is to now drop the offer of power share & go after both Tom Hicks & more so George Gillett "aggressively".

It is believed a formal offer for Gillett's entire share of Liverpool will be made 'within hours', if it hasnt already been done & is now on record.

This will give Tom Hicks 90 days to find the money to buy out his partner & assume over all control of Liverpool.

Now as I said before, Hicks was advised by JP Morgan a week ago that in trying to raise the money needed to buy out his partner he would put all his other assets at "serious risk".

Something he will NOT do.

There are too many reasons to explain in full why he wont do it - but trust me he wont.

Just a few of those reasons are the loan & debt, the building of the new stadium, players, cost of running the club & unforeseen expenses, which would amount to money Hicks just does not have.

So the only remaining option for him is to find a backer with unlimited resources who can out bid DIC.

Again I need not explain to you all - that is something that would prove extraordinarily difficult - if not impossible.

So the 90 days it is.

When that time arrives and Hicks cannot match DIC's bid, DIC would assume control of all of Gillett's shares - making them equal partners with Tom Hicks.

The day DIC get hold of 50% of the club, that is the day Tom Hick's can start thinking about different buisness ventures.

Again, too much to go into now, but alot of Hick's worry is the new stadium & the building plans.

He has already given out the contracts to his buisness people in the States & should DIC have an equal say in how things are done at Liverpool - they can cause him major headaches & stop those plans in there tracks.

That is something he cannot afford to let happen.

Someone I work with asked me about an hour ago - is this really the end of the DIC interest & I told him no - not at all.

All this latest twist means is it is going to get very messy, but with DIC being the aggressors - there will be only one winner.

Well two.

DIC & the fans.

http://forum.football.co.uk/viewtopi...1466117a324e67

[carlton]

Personally I dont think Fatso went into the meeting with DIC with any intention of closing a deal given his prior comments bout Amanda and DIC being only passive investors. He is clearly pissed off about press reports and is flexing his 'muscles'. He is talking to other investors who are going to stick the best part of $600M into the club without wanting management input and who are not looking for a return for years-yeah right! Fanciful in the best of times but even more fanciful given the market conditions. How stupid and gullible does he think us supporters are given his record of telling lies?

What now? Maybe DIC were expecting this and strategised accordingly-they may have even counted on Hicks causing trouble as it will turn even more fans against him. DIC can afford to wait and if the veto has a time limit then Hicks is under pressure.
Hopefully DIC push ahead and buy GG's shares.

[Morten_nogamst_Pedersen]

Who is Dmjn...?

[kopdan]

just another wannabe

[Vermilion]

just another wannabe

Ah Wannabe.......................A classic track.

[kopdan]

Ah Wannabe.......................A classic track.

you've really got it in for me havent you

[Vermilion]

you've really got it in for me havent you

I just logged on after a restless night thinking, right i'll go & discuss the events of last night, but when i got here i just didn't have the will.

So i saw your Wannabe line & just though, lets inject a little humour (debatable i know) into the conversation.

I'm just fed up with it all.

[vantage]

Why does Hicks think that anybody will will want 50% or even 49% pf the club for such a huge amount of money, if they do not have any say over what happens?

I just can't see him getting anybody on board with those terms, I really can't.

[kopdan]

I just logged on after a restless night thinking, right i'll go & discuss the events of last night, but when i got here i just didn't have the will.

So i saw your Wannabe line & just though, lets inject a little humour (debatable i know) into the conversation.

I'm just fed up with it all.

I know fella

Its got more twist and turns than your average Cornish road.

[Craig_H]

i think thats pretty much what theve done, hicks was proberbly trying to negotiate there offer price for gg's shares, remember he would have to match that offer but when dic start trying to call the shots hicks throws his toys out the pram.

there is absaloutly no way hicks can have a veto on ggs shares indenfinately, there not his to sell/buy, if that was the case then gg might of well just bought the shares and put them in hick's name, which he didnt.

there both there to make money so to sell your shares at a key time is pivitol to that, dic arent daft and know only too well hicks cant match there offer.

But they're Gillett's shares, so why would Hicks be involved in negotiations? Nowt to do with him really.

[MattB]

But they're Gillett's shares, so why would Hicks be involved in negotiations? Nowt to do with him really.

Because whatever Gillett gets will effectively put a value on his own shareholding, and he'll want to have a say in that

[Craig_H]

Yeah he'll want to, but what legal right does he have to?

Surely all Hicks can do is match any bid, or shut up?

[Vermilion]

But they're Gillett's shares, so why would Hicks be involved in negotiations? Nowt to do with him really.

It's baffling, I keep hearing how Dic sort of have Hick's over a barell, with America in financial turmoil, him not being able to find a buyer over there, the time on the refinancing ticking down now, his veto on GG with the clock running.

If ALL this was the true, why do i get the feeling that its HIM calling all the shots, & Dic doing all the chasing. If they were in such a strong position why all this ****ing about, just TELL him what's going to happen & make it so.

Ok i know it's complicated, but i think we could be underestimating how STRONG Hicks position is.

[Craig_H]

They're not even attempting to buy Hicks' shares, it's Gillett's they're trying to buy...so i dont even know why Hicks is involved in negotiations, let alone why he's apparently the leading negotiator, who is calling the shots.