DIC latest - the largely wild speculation thread

[wishiwasascouser]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot

"With an estimated net worth of around $4.4 billion as of 2007, he is ranked by Forbes as the 76th-richest person in America."

Hicks is said to be worth, $1.3 billion USD.

[Resu]

Ross Perot is indeed minted, and he ran for President a few years back. I would imagine he is in his 90s by now though.

Perot is something else, made his way up from nothing. I think he is in his late 70s now. He`s texan so he`ll probably know Hicks well. If you want to know what kind off guy he is read the book "On the wings of the eagle" (or something like that) by Ken Follett. ( Or you could just look him up on Wiki).

[dom9]

Perot is something else, made his way up from nothing. I think he is in his late 70s now. He`s texan so he`ll probably know Hicks well. If you want to know what kind off guy he is read the book "On the wings of the eagle" (or something like that) by Ken Follett. ( Or you could just look him up on Wiki).

I think he founded EDS, the systems giant (and my current employer).

Edit: from Wiki:


Henry Ross Perot (born June 27, 1930) is an American businessman from Texas, who is best known for seeking the office of President of the United States in 1992 and 1996. Perot founded Electronic Data Systems (EDS) in 1962; sold the company to General Motors in 1984, and founded Perot Systems in 1988.

[Agger the Dagger]

Guys, it is not H. Ross Perot the industrailist who ran independently for President in 1992, but his son, Ross Perot jr. who is also minted. But going by the reaction of Texas Rangers fans on their sites, it seems a bit desperate for Hicks and not at all certain that Perot will accept the offer.

[desertscouser]

Damn, I've just dropped that straw I was clutching!

[sonsofthedesert]

Perot is something else, made his way up from nothing. I think he is in his late 70s now. He`s texan so he`ll probably know Hicks well. If you want to know what kind off guy he is read the book "On the wings of the eagle" (or something like that) by Ken Follett. ( Or you could just look him up on Wiki).

When he ran for president and got hardly any votes I remember a big deal being made about him not allowing his employees to have beards or facial hair. Rafa may not like someone like him in charge.

[kurtangle01]

Guys, it is not H. Ross Perot the industrailist who ran independently for President in 1992, but his son, Ross Perot jr. who is also minted. But going by the reaction of Texas Rangers fans on their sites, it seems a bit desperate for Hicks and not at all certain that Perot will accept the offer.

So how have the Rangers fans got hold of this info? Has it been in the American press?

[peekay]

Well I hope it is not Ross Perot Jr.

It is clear that Tom Hicks is turning into Ross Perot Jr. – at least his pattern of ownership seems to be very similar.

If you recall, Perot lead the group that bought the Mavericks from Don Carter. Shortly after that, the Mavs spiraled downward until they were the laughingstock of the NBA. ESPN even flashed “Mavericks highlights – turn away!” on the screen during Sportscenter to alert fans to the horrible basketball that was about to be shown. Perot was all about real estate development and didn’t know anything about creating a winning basketball team. He (with Hicks as a partner) later developed the very successful Victory Plaza around the American Airlines Center after he sold the team.

Hicks now seems to be totally immersed in developing Glorypark between the ballpark and Jerryworld. Just as Perot always had more of a knack for real estate than the pick and roll, Hicks seems to be devoting more and more resources to development and less to winning. Our only hope is that there is a passionate baseball fan that can convince Hicks to sell the Rangers. This guy would have to overpay, because Hicks would not like the idea about “selling low” now that the Rangers are abysmal. The longer he waits, the worse the Rangers will get. They have in no way hit rock bottom, but that could be coming in the next year or two. I would suggest the time to sell would be immediately. In other words, the Rangers need to find their Mark Cuban. Say what you will about Cuban, but the Mavericks would not be where they are without him. I am not saying it should be Cuban, just someone like him. Surely there is a passionate baseball fan with hundreds of millions of dollars to invest.

Remember when Hicks bought the Rangers? Everyone was excited because the perception was that the previous ownership did not have the money to pursue high dollar free agents. Everyone thought Hicks would spend what was needed to bring a winner to Arlington. One of the first things he did was sign ARod to the largest contract in baseball history, paying him tens of millions of dollars more than anyone else would. On the ticket they extolled Hick’s greatness with a song about his “big 12 pounder” implying that Hick’s had the stroke to get whatever the Rangers wanted.

Hicks_dog

Unfortunately, in baseball, you have to be smart as well as rich. Proof of this is George Steinbrenner, who annually spends twice as much as virtually every team in baseball, but has not won a world championship in this millennium. When Hicks bought the Rangers, they had a strong minor league system which regularly churned out top position players, particularly Latin players. Hicks ignored these assets and like any other asset they depreciated until now they are in a very sorry state. Hicks inherited a quality GM in Doug Melvin, but later fired him to hire “the smartest GM in baseball” John Hart. After dabbling with Grady Fuson, Hicks hired the youngest GM in baseball history who has made mistakes of the highest magnitude in both hiring and trades.

Hicks bought the best soccer club in England and they promptly lost their first championship match under him. He commented about how the fans were so loyal and passionate as compared to the US teams he owned. Be careful what you ask for. I am sure those fans are feeling the same way Rangers fans did back when. They expect him to get them the players they need to be perennial champs. How long will it take for them to realize that this won’t happen? If his poor management skills rear their ugly head in Liverpool, those fans will be calling for Hicks’ head and he may not feel so comfortable traveling in the UK.

Mr. Hicks – please see the handwriting on the wall and sell now, before the Rangers hit rock bottom with your continued mistake-ridden Ross Perot Jr.-like leadership!

http://hitlesswanderings.mlblogs.com/hitless_wanderings_in_tex/2007/06/tom_hicks_vs_ro.html

The guy wrote this in June 2007

[Rafa Shankly]

ffs i can just see the head lines if this story gains legs.

[Sarb]

Can't see it happening. For some reason I don't think GG will sell to Hicks. Especially the way Hicks has used the press to blame everything on Gillett

[El Jefecito]

When he ran for president and got hardly any votes I remember a big deal being made about him not allowing his employees to have beards or facial hair. Rafa may not like someone like him in charge.

I worked for them. Dark trousers, white shirt, black shoes, hair cut must be above the collar

[Agger the Dagger]

Mr. Hicks – please see the handwriting on the wall and sell now, before the Rangers hit rock bottom with your continued mistake-ridden Ross Perot Jr.-like leadership!

http://hitlesswanderings.mlblogs.com/hitless_wanderings_in_tex/2007/06/tom_hicks_vs_ro.html

The guy wrote this in June 2007

Thanks peekay - the exact link I looked at from last week from a different thread (or maybe a few pages ago I lost count). They've even got their own ''Hicks Out'' petition as well

[peekay]

Can't see it happening. For some reason I don't think GG will sell to Hicks. Especially the way Hicks has used the press to blame everything on Gillett

I cannot see the veto lasting indefinitely. It all depends on DICs desire to get hold of Liverpool. If DIC and Gillett dig their heels then this is what Hicks will have to tell his investor buddies:
(i) You will have to outbid DIC
(ii) No committees, I make the decision even though you will be investing three times as much as I ever did
(iii) I will make random stupid media interviews in which sometimes I may take digs at you. Hope your ok with that.

[Danish_Pastry]

Well I hope it is not Ross Perot Jr.

It is clear that Tom Hicks is turning into Ross Perot Jr. – at least his pattern of ownership seems to be very similar.

If you recall, Perot lead the group that bought the Mavericks from Don Carter. Shortly after that, the Mavs spiraled downward until they were the laughingstock of the NBA. ESPN even flashed “Mavericks highlights – turn away!” on the screen during Sportscenter to alert fans to the horrible basketball that was about to be shown. Perot was all about real estate development and didn’t know anything about creating a winning basketball team. He (with Hicks as a partner) later developed the very successful Victory Plaza around the American Airlines Center after he sold the team.

Hicks now seems to be totally immersed in developing Glorypark between the ballpark and Jerryworld. Just as Perot always had more of a knack for real estate than the pick and roll, Hicks seems to be devoting more and more resources to development and less to winning. Our only hope is that there is a passionate baseball fan that can convince Hicks to sell the Rangers. This guy would have to overpay, because Hicks would not like the idea about “selling low” now that the Rangers are abysmal. The longer he waits, the worse the Rangers will get. They have in no way hit rock bottom, but that could be coming in the next year or two. I would suggest the time to sell would be immediately. In other words, the Rangers need to find their Mark Cuban. Say what you will about Cuban, but the Mavericks would not be where they are without him. I am not saying it should be Cuban, just someone like him. Surely there is a passionate baseball fan with hundreds of millions of dollars to invest.
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Mr. Hicks – please see the handwriting on the wall and sell now, before the Rangers hit rock bottom with your continued mistake-ridden Ross Perot Jr.-like leadership!

http://hitlesswanderings.mlblogs.com/hitless_wanderings_in_tex/2007/06/tom_hicks_vs_ro.html

The guy wrote this in June 2007

THESE two men have worked together before - and the took out a lot of public money for themselves - look here:

http://www.dallasobserver.com/2006-06-29/news/sticker-shock/

... abt. Ross Perot Jr.:

http://www.realchange.org/perot.htm

Don't hope this pair will ever be allowed near LFC together - they will damage the club for ages....!!!

[saveferris]

I think he founded EDS, the systems giant (and my current employer).

Mine too