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    #76
    We battered them, threw everything at them. Typically their keeper played the game of his life and they hacked everything away and stretched every sinew to defend. At around 60 minutes I knew we wouldn't score against these again - one of those days. I didn't think we could lose though. We switched off at the end, we'd accepted the draw. Carra's header was woeful and yet again another mistake off his created the chance for the goal (Carra is not having a good season by his standards). Itandje showed his erracticness of his keeping. Athletic, capable of reading the play, punching and great reaction saves. But also capable of hesitancy and poor positioning. I'm afraid in my book he cost us 2 goals. And up front - if we had 2 natural finishers up there, like the Robbie of old, we'd have buried them 4 or 5. But Crouch can't finish from 2 yards, Kuyt isn't instinctive enough to put his foot through the ball either, instead at times prefering to try and chest the ball down from 6 yards out when surounded by fella desperately trying to get anything on the ball. Crouch/Kuyt just aren't good enough at the top level to play week in wek out and lead a team to league glory.

    It also sickens me to think our lot are on 40K upwards a week and some of them look like they dont give a flying ****. Whatever their excuses, whether it be off the field or dressing room or managerial problems, it shouldn't ****ing matter when they are on the pitch. The club and the result should come first and foremost. Some of them lot should be made to pay back their ****ing wages for robbing us lot of a performance.

    But for all I can rant and rave and analyse this performance, the sad sad thing for me is that I am starting to lose the faith in Rafa. These performances are too common now. We've been ****e at Anfield all season. We plug the gaps away from home, sort that one out, then leaks spring up at Anfield instead. It's becoming a free for all now at home - all manner of teams can turn up and with the right set up and tactics, get a result of sorts. I mean, Barnsley, for all we outplayed them and they defended like heros, had 2 chances give or take, and thats all it took. Now they will be lauded like heros by the media whilst once again we get subjected to the laughter of the nation, which seems to have been the way all season. But as I was saying, it pains me to say, Rafa, I'm losing the faith.

    I know many of you lot went ages ago, but I still cling to what he did at Valencia, and what I've seen him do here in the 1st 3 years. But now we're a laughing stock on the pitch as much as we are off it. We can't play lowly opposition and cruise to a win. They expect a result and have been getting them. Someone pointed out above who we have beaten in 2008 and it is cringe worthy to think about. To be honest, I also didn't fancy a return trip to Barnsley, I think that had Burnley written all over it.

    So its a sad sad day for me, as I coming to the conclusion that this malaise isn't going to shift until a new regime comes in. Things look very very stale at the moment. I haven't completely lost the faith yet, but it is wavering badly
    Bring Back Rafa Cakes

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      #77
      Originally posted by Johnny View Post

      Rafa picked a team that should have won,the team are responsible for todays loss.
      We played against an 11 man defense who threw themselves at every shot and then scored a last minute winner from 20 yrds.We were unlucky today.
      just like we've been unlucky all season??!!!

      it's not luck, it's simply the fact that outwith torres and gerrard we have no match winners or goal scorers.
      People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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        #78
        Originally posted by Johnny View Post

        Rafa picked a team that should have won,the team are responsible for todays loss.
        We played against an 11 man defense who threw themselves at every shot and then scored a last minute winner from 20 yrds.We were unlucky today.
        As i mentioned before, his biggest mistake today wasn't his starting line up, it was taking Babel off.
        I dare say we'd have won if Babel stayed on. He was by far our most dangerous player and looked like creating every time he attacked.

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          #79
          Originally posted by AFII View Post


          I'm not happy to be probably proved right about the lost the dressing room bit. I said that months ago

          Rafa simply have to go. If he stays then we won't play in the CL next season. Bring back Pako until the end of the season and then take it from there.

          He has clearly lost the players.

          I dont think there is any point getting rid before the end of the season. However, I think the trigger will be pulled if/when we go out of European Cup.

          I cannot understand anyone saying they hoped we lost today, or in European Cup or anytime, to cause a change. I simply cannot get my head around the idea of wanting our team to lose as much as I want rid of Rafa and never wanted him in the first place.

          As for Kuyt at least he has a bereavement to justify some bad form. Also he works his socks off even if he is not top drawer. Can you say that of everyon? Kewell is a powderpuff of a player and is a disgrace to our club

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            #80
            Originally posted by AFII View Post


            I'm not happy to be probably proved right about the lost the dressing room bit. I said that months ago

            Rafa simply have to go. If he stays then we won't play in the CL next season. Bring back Pako until the end of the season and then take it from there.
            How does anyone know that Rafa has lost the dressing room?
            We did everything possible to win that game,we had about 30 shots and they had a team of heroes.Thiese things happen.

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              #81
              Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
              Anyone who still thinks Kuyt is good enough for liverpool is a donkey. Simple. Rafa included.
              Crouch played worse today than Kuyt did. Not saying that he's proving to be good enough or anything, but objectively, Crouch was our weakest attcking player today imo.
              I could not dig, I dared not rob:
              Therefore I lied to please the mob.
              Now all my lies are proved untrue
              And I must face the men I slew.
              What tale shall serve me here among
              Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                #82
                Originally posted by Johnny View Post

                Rafa picked a team that should have won,the team are responsible for todays loss.
                We played against an 11 man defense who threw themselves at every shot and then scored a last minute winner from 20 yrds.We were unlucky today.
                Im sorry mate but how many times have we heard that excuse rolled out this season and last? If you think players like kewell and riise are still up to it together with some baffling substitutions we must be watching different games
                "I watched the Champions League quarter-finals and the way they crushed Arsenal. Only the greatest and the best can play such a match.
                The Future is Red!

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by PoolG View Post
                  And who do we get in?

                  Nobody would take the job given the uncertainty over the ownership.

                  summer is the time to change
                  That's the problem. I havn't a clue who to get in but best time is now so he'll have a few months to check the squad out and implement his style on the team so we'll be ready to fire from day1 next season

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
                    As i mentioned before, his biggest mistake today wasn't his starting line up, it was taking Babel off.
                    I dare say we'd have won if Babel stayed on. He was by far our most dangerous player and looked like creating every time he attacked.
                    But he brought in Kewell who had about 5 shots and hit the cross bar.We were as good before and after Babel went off.

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                      #85
                      Barnsley had 2chances and scored.I blame Rafa for sticking with these players and the players who just dont give a ****.Rafa will pull it out against Inter.
                      We made it easy by hoofing all day.They got **** lucky really
                      Oh the man is a midfield maestro
                      and his passes are sooo delightful
                      everyone wants to know
                      Alonso Alonso Alonso

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by MrMichael View Post
                        Crouch played worse today than Kuyt did. Not saying that he's proving to be good enough or anything, but objectively, Crouch was our weakest attcking player today imo.
                        You're right, he was poo today but we know what he is capable of, we also know what Kuyt is INcapable of...

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                          #87
                          Thats the end of him at this club - the only possible thing that could save him would be to win th CL again and thats not going to happen.

                          He is damaging the club and the players with his ridiculous decision making. Another toothless performance another embarrassing result.

                          If we tolerate this, then our children will be next......
                          Fernando Torres

                          I dont just love him, I'm IN love with him

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                            #88
                            Lets not be looking for individual scapegoats lads. We were beaten by a side with bigger hearts and smaller wage packets. And that is disgraceful. I'm not really one for knee-jerk reactions, as i've followed the reds for over 35 years and seen a few ups and downs, but we are in a crisis of gigantic proportions right now and as much as i've defended Benitez over the last few months, he needs to move on, either through his own free will or with (unfortunately) a cowboy boot up his arse.
                            Last edited by robbielad9; 16-02-08, 06:32 PM. Reason: Couldnt see through the red mist
                            "I just felt that the whole night, the conditions and taking everything into consideration and everything being equal, and everything is equal, we should have got something from the game - but we didn't." - JOHN BARNES

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                              #89
                              Originally posted by Nic83 View Post
                              As i mentioned before, his biggest mistake today wasn't his starting line up, it was taking Babel off.
                              I dare say we'd have won if Babel stayed on. He was by far our most dangerous player and looked like creating every time he attacked.
                              How knackered was he though?

                              Has Babel ever yet completed 90 minutes for us?
                              I could not dig, I dared not rob:
                              Therefore I lied to please the mob.
                              Now all my lies are proved untrue
                              And I must face the men I slew.
                              What tale shall serve me here among
                              Mine angry and defrauded young?

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                                #90
                                This could be the result that acts as a catalyst to sort out the season. We have been woeful since November but because we haven't been losing many games ah **** it. Can't be arsed.
                                A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.

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