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We should swap him with Ox!
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Really pleased for Suso. He's turned it around big-time this season. I think it shows that you can't always write players off (I wrote Suso off). Sometimes they just need to find the right system/position/manager etc. The same applies to Victor Moses for example.Last edited by Pablo; 21-04-17, 11:20 AM.Comment
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^ alberto moreno likes this ^Originally posted by Pablo View Postremoving all the weak links makes us stronger
too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.Comment
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He's the execption to the rule!Originally posted by baitman View Post
Even for a footballer you need half a brain to succeed.
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and Wayne Rooney is the exception to that rule.Originally posted by Pablo View PostHe's the execption to the rule! Even for a footballer you need half a brain to succeed._____________________________________
Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!
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I really felt we had made a mistake selling him. he is one player I really though had "it". Especially as we endedOriginally posted by Pablo View Post
up giving him away.
I think we write off kids too early.In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.Comment
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what, to give him away? Im not saying he would have been a first team player, but when you look at the market, we should have got some Ibe level cash at least. That is a poor decision on economics alone.In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.Comment
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Originally posted by Pablo View PostI think that it's a difficult one, I thought that he had potential, the questions really were over his size and ability to handle the physical aspects of the PL. If you look at his 5 years with us it was in the middle of that where he got his chance, then he went out on loan and then the manager didn't pick him and he was moved on.Originally posted by Charly View Post
His time at Milan it was probably the experience he gained on loan at Genoa that got him Serie A experience and helped him do so well at Milan this year. If we were to have kept him and developed him in this way we would probably have needed to loan him to a PL club where he would get regular games and that doesn't seem to happen here. The players that we are loaning to other PL sides are largely players who either we want rid of or players who we had (presumably) been hoping to develop, but many of them don't get game time. Who was the last player that we loaned out who came back and had a significant career with us? I can think of Danny Murphy, beyond that it's people like Jay Spearing who came back and was on the fringes of the squad for a while before moving on. There are a couple of potential issues here the first being the ability to spot and develop appropriate talent and retain it, the second is the ability to develop it through the youth system, loan moves and the first team. Very few players who leave the club seem to do very much in the game. Suso is probably the most successful youth player we have let go in reent years (Sterling was sold so doesn't count).Last edited by Exiled_red; 22-04-17, 01:25 PM.The only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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He was out of contract and refused to do sign a new deal.Originally posted by Charly View PostIf we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?Comment
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I realise this, but I thought we should have spent more time developing him inhouse. I thought it was clear from our attempts to keep loaning him out that he had no future here.
This is one of those rare occasions where I called it right, so I simply have to milk it... let me have this one... please?In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.Comment
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Originally posted by Charly View Post
No, you said we made a mistake selling him. I said we made the right decision.Was muß, das muß.Comment
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lol... yes, I did. Every player has his price though.In the beginning, Fowler created the Heaven and the Earth.Comment
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My avatarOriginally posted by Charly View Post
Me, I’m either planning a holiday or I’m on one.Comment
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Aspas hits the post.
He still talks to Raheem Sterling and Luis Suárez among others and speaks fondly of Steven Gerrard, a man with “presence”, a captain who “didn’t say a great deal but when he did everyone listened”, and suggests that Spain could learn from England when it comes to the “respect” for players such as him. He also insists that the experience was a good one, despite the lack of minutes, light or language. “I’d get up, go training, eat, have a siesta and when you wake up it’s night,” he says, smiling. “I did try but we almost always spoke Spanish. There were seven or eight of them that spoke Spanish and so it was inevitable.”
The number rises. The next time he mentions language it’s nine. Then 10. Then there’s Glen Johnson, who spoke Spanish, too. Oh, and Brendan Rodgers gave him instructions in Spanish.
What Rodgers did not do was give him many opportunities. “It was their best year for 10, 15 years, they were close to winning the league. [Daniel] Sturridge scored 21, Luis [Suárez] 31, so it’s normal that I didn’t get many chances. It didn’t annoy me; I understood that I couldn’t play with them at that level. It’s hard, of course: I’d played every game at Celta. But there are times you can’t play and when they win [without you], you know that. You have to take your frustration out on the training ground and the sessions were really good, at least.”
His corner taking, on the other hand, was not. Mention Iago Aspas and the inevitable response recalls the final minutes of that decisive meeting with Chelsea at the end of that 2013-14 season, when, with time running out and the title slipping away after Steven Gerrard’s slip and Demba Ba’s goal, Aspas sent a corner to the edge of the area straight to Willian. That error was recalled again after the first leg, as if some sort of definitive proof against him. It does not matter that he took Celta there or that only Messi, Suárez and Ronaldo have scored more in La Liga this season, or that he went to Wembley and scored, it’s all about the corner – a portrait of failure.
Aspas says: “I don’t have to prove anything to anyone; I just have to help my team. I have to be the player I’ve been this season. I already proved myself when I went there with the national team.”
Everyone else has gone; he is the last man left at Madroa apart from the member of staff huddled in a cramped store cupboard under the stand by the door, surreptitiously puffing away on a cigarette. Aspas gets up, slaps him on the back, swears at him and climbs behind the wheel of his car, noisily heading the short distance over the bridge and home. But not without a final word on that corner.
“I suppose it’s because it was my last game and we lost,” he says. “It was a great season for Liverpool – one of their best – although I would have liked to have played a bigger part and that corner is the final memory, so it’s their lasting image of me. But in football you can’t forever live in the past. Things keep moving, every day gives you another chance. Hopefully, for the sake of Celta and because of the happiness it would bring Liverpool fans, we can knock out United and they can have a new image to replace it.”"I will make the boys feel your support"
Jurgen Klopp June 2020Comment
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