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    #61
    I'm with Red Hot on this one.

    Some fans are too sensitive to every little criticism aired by Andy Gray and his ilk.

    He is paid to give his opinion. You're not always going to agree with it or even like it, but that doesn't necessitate whinging like a child every time he says something you disapprove of.

    Some people need to grow a thicker skin.
    A humble guy with healthy desire.

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      #62
      I watched the game on Setanta yesterday and the commentary was bad but nothing compared to that ****wit Tim Sherwood in the studio, that was one bitter human being
      Kurtangled in the McFadden thread 16/01/08

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        #63
        Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
        It made such a nice change not having to put up with that idiot saying "hugely" all the time and his inane "hee hee hee" whenever he makes an unfunny joke about something boring.
        He must say "hugely" 10 times every game. It's very irritating.
        Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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          #64
          Originally posted by FatTony View Post
          I'm sick to death of LFC fans whining about media treatment....
          Nobody wants preferential treatment, most just are after super cockheads like andy gray to shut the **** up.

          Hello mert.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
            The thing that pisses me off about Andy Gray is not his pro-Everton bias but how, as the leading 'expert' summariser on the leading football channel, he sets the agenda. Even that would be OK if he knew what he was talking about but plenty of times he doesn't.

            He has never managed a club and to my knowledge he has never taken a coaching course yet he sits around spouting ignorant stock phrases about zonal marking, rotation and many other things about which he seems unqualified to judge. Then others repeat them and they become the accepted wisdom when actually they are founded on, at best, outdated concepts of of how teams are best managed and coached and, at worst, entirely inaccurate and/or partial selection of statistics to suit a prejudice based on ignorance.
            Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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              #66
              I still don't understand why Tim Sherwood is so ****ing bitter towards Liverpool. I mean, he even lifted the Premiership at Anfield

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                #67
                Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
                I still don't understand why Tim Sherwood is so ****ing bitter towards Liverpool. I mean, he even lifted the Premiership at Anfield


                And we cheered him! ******
                Forwards.......

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Neil Young View Post
                  The thing that pisses me off about Andy Gray is not his pro-Everton bias but how, as the leading 'expert' summariser on the leading football channel, he sets the agenda. Even that would be OK if he knew what he was talking about but plenty of times he doesn't.

                  He has never managed a club and to my knowledge he has never taken a coaching course yet he sits around spouting ignorant stock phrases about zonal marking, rotation and many other things about which he seems unqualified to judge. Then others repeat them and they become the accepted wisdom when actually they are founded on, at best, outdated concepts of of how teams are best managed and coached and, at worst, entirely inaccurate and/or partial selection of statistics to suit a prejudice based on ignorance.
                  He was Villa's assistant manager under Ron Atkinson

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ben Tover View Post
                    I heard he didn't get along with Big Ron when he was coaching at Villa and Big Ron sacked him (Just a rumour, someone on here might know about the situation better)
                    Originally posted by Redspin View Post
                    He was Villa's assistant manager under Ron Atkinson

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                      #70
                      Im working overseas at the moment and watched the Bolton game on Showtime (i think) where there was some halfwit commentating with expert analysis from the legendary footballing god Efan Ekoku.

                      It was shocking analysis it has to be said, Ekoku did not have one, and i mean one, good word to say about us for the whole 90 minutes. Every game i watch of ours here the commentary team is pretty much irrelevant as the mantra is the same - zonal marking, rotation, lack of width, Babel not up to it, Bolton have given us the game etc.

                      It really is tiresome and its the same **** week in week out regardless of the channel and we seem to get bashed regardless of how we play.

                      Also, the commentator noted that (in between sniggering) that not only have we not won the league for 18 years, but during that time the only time we've been close was when we come 4th under Evans but were in with a shout up to the final week!!!!!

                      Correct me if im wrong here but what about the ****ing year Houllier took us to second?
                      Its no nothing morons like that and Efan Ekoku who really get my goat more than the likes of Andy Gray tbh
                      If you've lost your faith in love and music the end won't be long

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