Is Torres....

[dww]

The best barometer of how good a post you've made, is how much i agree with it

That was a good one

Wow - thats one good post and one pretty decent one by those standards today - I'm on a roll

[Craig_H]

Just dont get carried away and roll too far

[AFII]

This part of dww's post is something you should re-read mate

"I think that we need someone to play if/when we rest Torres or he is injured and as such as a reserve/sub"

Henry would never agree to join us if he isn't more or less guaranteed a place. Can you imagine how unhappy he would be after two, three games on the bench?

I would rather have a young hungry player, Nemeth, on the bench than an unhappy Henry.

Team spirit is very, very important. Just look at our season so far.

[Jayesh87]

....as good as Henry in his prime ?

No, not yet. If he keeps his form up over a long period of time then we can consider him as good as Henry in his prime.

Babel is the new Henry anyways.

[friedk]

I can understand your points but Torres has proved what class of players we need to go after.

I would agree with that Henry would be a good signing if he can sort out his hamstring problems and if he can play out wide but I doubt that he would be that interested playing anywhere else than upfront as an out and out striker.

Then it comes down to if it's more important to keep playing Gerrard in the position he now plays in or play him deeper instead of Alonso/Lucas.

Gerrard would then be much less effective and he is more important to us than Henry would be.

Why change a system that works excellent?

Torres this season has to be amongst the best handful of players in Europe. He's been so good that it would be difficult to value him, because he's almost impossible to replace.

We are very lucky to have Torres, but to find another in that class is almost impossible.

More in the mould of Babel, Lucas & Mascherano would do nicely.

A manc said to me after the inter game, "I ****ing hate Torres, I hate that he plays for you, I hate that it's his first season, I hate that he's only 23, and I ****ing hate that I love him so much"

[Guest]

Torres is not the finished article 'yet' but he'll soon prove to be under Rafa's tutelage and more so when we do manage to buy a world class right winger to provide him the ammunition he craves. Imagine if we increase the amount of chances to him compared to how much we're giving him right now. The thought of that is scary.

[AFII]

Torres has already made a better season than Robbie did at his peak when you consider that Robbie scored quite a few penalties every season.

Torres has scored all his goals from open play. That says it all how excellent he is.

[Guest]

Torres has already made a better season than Robbie did at his peak when you consider that Robbie scored quite a few penalties every season.

Torres has scored all his goals from open play. That says it all how excellent he is.

A bit far fetched that mate. We'll just have to wait.

And Robbie was a different type of player.

[mersey86]

Are we not allowed take the thread a step further? ok, sorry. He is not as good right now. Guess that's thread over.

Preferably only if you have something decent to add. If the question is whether Torres is now as good as Henry was at his best, then why suggest that Torres would need to reproduce the form over a couple of seasons? Is he as good now or not? Thanks for your answer. I'll file it away.

[Nic83]

Jesus christ. So this thread should have consisted of yes and no answers. Great forum. That's it lads, stick solely to the exact point or question in the initial thread or you'll be in trouble with mersey86.

[red g]

Torres has already made a better season than Robbie did at his peak when you consider that Robbie scored quite a few penalties every season.

Torres has scored all his goals from open play. That says it all how excellent he is.

not sure about that .....Torres has had a few poor games....

[mersey86]

So this thread should have consisted of yes and no answers. Great forum. That's it lads, stick solely to the exact point or question in the initial thread or you'll be in trouble with mersey86.

Nic's forte. Responding aggressively while the whole point sails unobserved over his frothing little head.

[anfieldanfield]

36 games 27 goals so far.

Astonishing.

How many did Henry get in his second season at Arsenal ?

[MrMichael]

Chill people, chill.

Is Torres yet as good as henry in his prime? No, he isn't. Torres has been a goal scoring machine this season, as was Henry for many years, but Torres' all round game is not yet as well developed. Henry dictated the entire style of play for that Arsenal side, his overall footballing ability and brain was, and maybe still is, of the absolutely highest quality.

Torres can become as much of a genius in his own right as Henry has been. Maybe even more so, we'll see what he achieves. But Henry at his best was imperious, its easy to forget just how damn good he was. I dunno what he's got left in the tank, but if you said even the Henry of today or Kuyt, Voronin and Crouch, there is simply no contest.

[Craig_H]

20 league goals. First player to reach that milestone since Robbie Fowler...