The draw was a FIX

[Dirk07]

but would any of these people risk everything (this is fraud) just because they dont like liverpool, the premier league, rafa's goaty or whatever

Normally only big wedges of cash can create such deceptions and I do not see immediately where this would come from...... there is only one italian team in it to start with (and they got the scum)

If for some reason one of these people did have it in for us or english teams that much there would have to be plenty of people in on it to do this including players or ex players who draw the balls and would you trust a footballer to do anything properly and keep his mouth shut...... for no reason other than you dont like someone....... with the risk of jail?

[Kenneth]

Would UEFA want Uts vs Roma after the trouble last time in Rome?

[Shaggy]

There were hundreds, if not more, involved in the Italian fraud scandal - didn't stop them.

All sorts of corruption goes on within every authority - be it local government (seen that first-hand), national government, Football Associations........whatever. It goes on and always has done. It'd be crazy to dismiss it just because it's football and it'd "be a bit risky for those involved".

[Shaggy]

Would UEFA want Uts vs Roma after the trouble last time in Rome?

Yeah!

United's fans get into loads more fighting - heaping shame on the 'English game' - and another excuse to get an English club into trouble.

[BFG]

What has the 'fix' actually achieved though? It was likely that two English teams would be drawn together and they have been. The other two have been kept apart. If they 'hated' England that much why not draw the 4 against each other?

[Shaggy]

What has the 'fix' actually achieved though? It was likely that two English teams would be drawn together and they have been. The other two have been kept apart. If they 'hated' England that much why not draw the 4 against each other?

Far too obvious.

This way, they get rid of one of the two English teams who've occupied a final spot for the last 3 successive years - guaranteed.

In the semis, they get rid of another.

The only way an all English final can take place is if United beat Barca.

[BobTheCharmer]

Far too obvious.

This way, they get rid of one of the two English teams who've occupied a final spot for the last 3 successive years - guaranteed.

In the semis, they get rid of another.

The only way an all English final can take place is if United beat Barca.

FLMAO - all that dope you smoke has totally ****ed with your head old boy. best advert to avoid the stuff there's ever been.

[BFG]

I see what you're saying but I still think it's a coincidence.

Wenger's said this:

"You know when you have four clubs from England in the quarter-final, you will have to play one or two at some stage."

I think he's right. 2 English teams have to beat at least 2 to win it and 1 has to at least beat 1 other. That doesn't seem that out of the ordinary considering there were 50% English clubs in the draw.

[BFG]

FLMAO - all that dope you smoke has totally ****ed with your head old boy. best advert to avoid the stuff there's ever been.

And you're the best advert there is to **** up your brain. Willingly.

[NICKZS]

Yeah!

United's fans get into loads more fighting - heaping shame on the 'English game' - and another excuse to get an English club into trouble.

Hmmm, I must admit this whole thing is fishy, but I think that this is far too complex for UEFA. They are a bunch of nobheads who couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery, much less mastermind a conspiracy against a certain country's teams.

And thinking about it, with 4 English teams and 4 ties to be played, it was always a probability that 2 English teams would face each other. I'm not totally disagreeing with you Shaggs, but I'm sceptical that the whole scenario is as presented.

[calvoboy]

Daily Mirror is on the case now: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...9520-20351088/

[Shaggy]

Just throwing it out there!

And of course it's not remotely out of the ordinary that we've drawn an English club. Not remotely.

What is out of the ordinary is exactly the right draw being "guessed" in a thread entitled "leaked draw".

[Hansi]

The only way an all English final can take place is if United beat Barca.

Not if Schalke beat Barca

[BobTheCharmer]

And your're the best advert there is to **** up your brain. Willingly.

LOL, indeed. very good. I'll be more than satisfied if when its your time to leave this wondeful planet of ours, your demise is more painful than mine.

[Matt]

Daily Mirror is on the case now: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...9520-20351088/

Echo are running it as well