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    #91
    Originally posted by fredo View Post
    We don't know if he hasn't given them instructions anyway, so it's a bit harsh making Rafa the culprit for that. I just think that these type of games brings a government health warning because of the sheer passion between both sets of players & supporters, therefore needing strong players to handle all the pressure.

    That's why also I won't blame Stevie for not overreacting. He tried to get on with his game, even though he wasn't playing his best game.

    I dont blame Rafa for it, once players cross the white line there aint much he can do, i just wonder if it was discussed thats all, Ferguson saod after the game that players had to be aware of the Cole issue so it implied he had warned his players.
    I actually think Gerrard didnt play that badly, but people expect him to win every game alone, the reason he isnt so "stand out" against Utd is he is playing against better players, its not rocket science really.
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      #92
      Originally posted by lfcruleus View Post
      I dont blame Rafa for it, once players cross the white line there aint much he can do, i just wonder if it was discussed thats all, Ferguson saod after the game that players had to be aware of the Cole issue so it implied he had warned his players.
      I actually think Gerrard didnt play that badly, but people expect him to win every game alone, the reason he isnt so "stand out" against Utd is he is playing against better players, its not rocket science really.
      which of these players do you believe in your opinion are better than gerrard????????????

      scholes - bollox
      hargreaves - bollox
      carrick - bollox
      giggs - bollox
      "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

      "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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        #93
        Originally posted by PostmanPat View Post
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QbjqWeIiE8

        Masch was naive but he was passionate and was asking the questions our captain should have been asking. Stevie was probably arranging a meet with Wazza or Rio.
        When we came out in the second half we should has kicked the cunts off the park.
        Too ****ing friendly and nice though.

        Mascherano for captain.
        You need to watch the link PPP put up. It's class and goes a long way to explaining why El Jefecito lost his head.



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          #94
          Originally posted by bobbyfallon View Post
          which of these players do you believe in your opinion are better than gerrard????????????

          scholes - bollox
          hargreaves - bollox
          carrick - bollox
          giggs - bollox
          He's not saying they are better than SG, only that they are better than the players SG usually faces
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            #95
            Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
            He's not saying they are better than SG, only that they are better than the players SG usually faces
            ok
            "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

            "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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              #96
              Originally posted by bobbyfallon View Post
              which of these players do you believe in your opinion are better than gerrard????????????

              scholes - bollox
              hargreaves - bollox
              carrick - bollox
              giggs - bollox

              I didnt mean the players were individually better than him, I meant the standard of the opposition is higher, but in big games Scholes and Giggs have proven themselves time and time again to be better. I am not knocking Stevie i just dont expect him to be the best in the world every game.
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                #97
                if the ref , benett, had just been bollocked by Hackett for missing that A.Cole insident.. do you not think that he would be more likely to do something like that?!

                i love mascherano to bits, but what he did yesterday was just pure stupid..

                YES he may have been asking why Torres had been given a yellow card for asking for protection, which was a bad mistakeby the ref, but as a young player you're always tought the referee will not change his decision.. and Mascherano asking 'what was that for' could be seen as a bookable offence!

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
                  He's not saying they are better than SG, only that they are better than the players SG usually faces
                  thank you.
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by barnes10 View Post
                    spot on. said it many times before, stevie is not a leader of men. this was a time that a leader of men was requried and we didnt have one. wouldnt have happened to keane or souness or terry. gerrard was anonymous and then didnt act as a captain should. another reason why he shouldnt be our captain.

                    either way tho. i want our team to not rise to sh1te like this or if anything, the captain have a word either during or at half time. nothing more than that. no wingeing on the pitch or in the manager's interview. rafa should only say 'some referees are better than others' whenever asked to comment and leave it at that.
                    there's just no need for this nonsense.
                    FLAMO. Keane and Terry would be leading the charge.







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                      Originally posted by lfcruleus View Post
                      I didnt mean the players were individually better than him, I meant the standard of the opposition is higher, but in big games Scholes and Giggs have proven themselves time and time again to be better. I am not knocking Stevie i just dont expect him to be the best in the world every game.
                      ya sorry mate - after i re read it it made more sense.... get your point now.



                      still thick as ****
                      "Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.

                      "Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

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                        Originally posted by bobbyfallon View Post
                        ya sorry mate - after i re read it it made more sense.... get your point now.



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                          Oh stop bickering now everyone. It's been and done. Masher was stupid, he should have stayed away and yes it did probably cost us the game but the ref was a **** no doubt about that either! Surely we can all agree on these facts and move on now........

                          PS. I still love Masher.
                          RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFA! RAFAEL! RAFAEL BENITEZ!

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                              Originally posted by Nick77 View Post
                              Had he been a Scum or Chav player he wouldn't have got sent off - end of. He wouldn't have even got booked for the 1st challenge, it was his first offence ffs!!!
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                                Originally posted by fredo View Post
                                It was a bad challenge but he did try to withdraw from it but he already committed himself. And it was his first tackle FFS. Technically speaking Mascher was in the wrong, but Bennett should have acted sensibly by giving him only a tickling off. He instead put down the marker on him, and based on the way he plays, there was gonna be only one result ... Him being red carded.
                                "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
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