Transfer Spending &* Squad Costs

[Manofthebog]

no. he can sell and buy. come on regardless of who's in charge he'll have at least a transfer kitty of 20 million. he can easy raise 20-30 million by selling carson, riise, finnan, pennant, yossi, crouch and even kuyt.

that's a transfer kitty in the region of of 50 million.

Can you guarantee that if Hicks gets complete control of us, we'll have any money to spend on top of the money Rafa recoups?

Don't want us to be in the position of having to get rid of Alonso to free up some money.

[Rich]

These arguments get so dull and are always trotted out after a bad result

We have spent a huge amount of money, similar to United over the years, some well spent, some squandered. We've had 2 (and a half) revolutions since the Premiership started which means further outlay and players, United haven't.

I'm of the belief that the first 2/3 years of a reign wholesale changes are generally required in the playing staff but there should come a time when the squad becomes settled after this point the money to strengthen should be spent on the odd player (i.e. world class/awesome prospect) We are at this point now. I can't see us challenging next year if we have another summer of 5/6 players out, 5/6 players in (discounting youth)

[Shaggy]

"trottered"

[EwarWoo]

If the 'giro cheque' is £20m, why will he buy squad fillers with it?

Why not buy one world class player?

Because the board will hum and ar and negotiate and bargain and delay and he'll not be able to get a world class player of his choosing.

[badpiggy]

"trottered"

good work

[Rich]

"trottered"

I'm sick today ****

[rudedog]

How does your post show comparible spending since the PL began?

Current squad comparrison is much more useful than a entire comparison since the PL began.

[Red_Polo]

I think the key point some people miss is it's a hell of a lot easier to build a collection of brilliant players through similar long-term spend as other clubs if you have a better team to start with, a recent history of success and greater flexibility in the way you can spend. Even if given the same budget as Man Utd for six consecutive seasons, we'd have to work harder and smarter than them to catch up - we have no right to expect matched spending to just magically make us better than them. Some peoples expectations are pure fantasy.

[Craig_H]

But we need more than just one quality player, and blowing 20 million on only one player per transfer window, is not what we do, if you hadn't noticed. Not Rafa's style.

So buying 4 average £5m players is what we'll do...

Great(!)

In this case, Rafa's style will never win us the title.

[MindGuerrillas]

I think the key point some people miss is it's a hell of a lot easier to build a collection of brilliant players through similar long-term spend as other clubs if you have a better team to start with, a recent history of success and greater flexibility in the way you can spend. Even if given the same budget as Man Utd for six consecutive seasons, we'd have to work harder and smarter than them to catch up - we have no right to expect matched spending to just magically make us better than them. Some peoples expectations are pure fantasy.

[The Birdman]

To be fair to Ferguson he didn't inherit those players he brought them through but they weren't at the club when he arrived, they were only about 10 or 11!! He got Giggs from under City's nose remember.

I think if Rafa is still here, which hopefully will be the case, in 10 years he will have a number of similar players in his team and squad.

That's my point - Fergie did inherit them becuase they were already in Man U's youth system, he didn't have to go and get them to supliment a **** youth policy.
Yes he had the bollocks to play them but that's not rocket science, even benders like Phil Neville have over 50 caps for their country and have had successful club careers without being a 'superstar' like Beckham.

It's not hard to pick players if they're good enough.
It's a seperate argument but who have Utd brought through since Fergie has been manager that came to the club after he started??
Wes Brown was a couple of years behind but he was in the squad in 99, how many youth players has Fergie brought through that have played over 50 1st team games?
Not many, I can't think of one of the top of my head. He was lucky inheriting a massively gifted generation of young players that were at the club at the right time.

[The Birdman]

So buying 4 average £5m players is what we'll do...

Great(!)

In this case, Rafa's style will never win us the title.

I kind of agree with that, if you need to fill the squad then you spend the money accordingly, most observers would say we are another striker, 1 maybe 2 top quality full backs away from being competitive.
It's pointless listing wingers we should buy if we're going to play 4-2-3-1 and this system seems to suit Masch, Gerrard and Torres who are our best players.

[red g]

i dont even need to read this bolloxs...... facts every one of these players cost or will cost eventually over 15million

Veron, ferdinand, hargreaves, nani, anderson, carrick, rooney and tevez

we have

torres and mascherano....

I am sure if we had 8 players that cost over 15million we would be doing a hell of a lot better !!

[Manofthebog]

So buying 4 average £5m players is what we'll do...

Great(!)

In this case, Rafa's style will never win us the title.

Agger/Squittle, not bad players for 5 million, eh.

If you haven't noticed, we haven't the money to blow our budget on 2 quality players.

One quality player, and a few squad fillers is what we can all expect at the mo.

You want it to be different, well: 1. pray DIC come in
2. Fook off and support the manc/chavs.

[Craig_H]

Agger/Squittle, not bad players for 5 million, eh.

If you haven't noticed, we haven't the money to blow our budget on 2 quality players.

One quality player, and a few squad fillers is what we can all expect at the mo.

You want it to be different, well: 1. pray DIC come in
2. Fook off and support the manc/chavs.

No i wont fook off and support the mancs or chavs...

And virtually everyone agrees that we've had our fill of squaddies, and what we need now are top class players of the Torres ilk - eg £20m level players.

So in conclusion, what are you on about?

FYI Agger and Skrtel cost more than £5m...