Will ramadan affect momo

[G_Man]

I think it's actually because otherwise it would just make it so much harder for everyone else to observe Ramadan. I remember seeing some programme with Dom Joly where he went back to Lebanon and Syria where he grew up. It was Ramadan and one day he decided to fast. Only then did he understand how difficult it was to see people swigging a glass of water and eating a shawarma in front of you when you'd had nothing but air pass your lips in ten hours of sweltering heat. He almost ****ted this guy just for having a sip of water

Surely it's a bit ****ing ridiculous to make it illegal to drink though.

[Bob]

FFS

To be fair, IMO you should respect people beliefs/culture in their country. Unfortuantely this is not always the case in Britain, but let's save that debate for another day!

[stevenage_kop]

To be fair, IMO you should respect people beliefs/culture in their country. Unfortuantely this is not always the case in Britain, but let's save that debate for another day!

bites tongue and shuts up

[G_Man]

To be fair, IMO you should respect people beliefs/culture in their country. Unfortuantely this is not always the case in Britain, but let's save that debate for another day!

It's one thing to respect people's beliefs/culture, I have no problem with Ramadan. I do have a problem when a country makes it illegal to drink water. I mean, how retarded is that?

[Red_Polo]

I know about the way they treat women as second class citizens but what would really piss me off is if some jobsworth arrested me for rehydrating myself in the street just because of the ****ing date. Total nonsense.

I'm not saying it's right, but there is another side to it. It's so easy to completely miss the point and judge others through your own worldview, as illustrated by the way you say 'just because of the ****ing date' when in reality it's far more than that to most people in Saudi.

[Bob]

I think it's actually because otherwise it would just make it so much harder for everyone else to observe Ramadan. I remember seeing some programme with Dom Joly where he went back to Lebanon and Syria where he grew up. It was Ramadan and one day he decided to fast. Only then did he understand how difficult it was to see people swigging a glass of water and eating a shawarma in front of you when you'd had nothing but air pass your lips in ten hours of sweltering heat. He almost ****ted this guy just for having a sip of water

Now i want a chicken shawarma

[G_Man]

I'm not saying it's right, but there is another side to it. It's so easy to completely miss the point and judge others through your own worldview, as illustrated by the way you say 'just because of the ****ing date' when in reality it's far more than that to most people in Saudi.

Yes, but to me it would be "just a date" and I was saying how I would feel if they arrested me.

[Bob]

It's one thing to respect people's beliefs/culture, I have no problem with Ramadan. I do have a problem when a country makes it illegal to drink water. I mean, how retarded is that?

I'm not saying it's right, but there is another side to it. It's so easy to completely miss the point and judge others through your own worldview, as illustrated by the way you say 'just because of the ****ing date' when in reality it's far more than that to most people in Saudi.

Religion is a way of life for them! It's more of a choice for us. Therefore Religious beliefs are stringently linked to laws of the Muslim world/way.

[Red_Polo]

Surely it's a bit ****ing ridiculous to make it illegal to drink though.

Again, I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, how could I - since I don't believe in Islam it makes little sense to me. But the whole point of society is that we make rules by which we all by and large benefit, freedoms and rights are prioritised. Whilst this rule sounds ridiculous to us, it makes sense over there. It's not that ludicrous when you think about it, it's just different. Like Helios always says, horses **** horses.

[G_Man]

Seriously Polo, you think it's not ludicrous to make it illegal to drink water?

I think it is

[Red_Polo]

Yes, but to me it would be "just a date" and I was saying how I would feel if they arrested me.

I would probably lose my rag too. But ultimately I would accept that those emotions speak of the intolerance and lack of understanding that is inherent in us all and that we must constantly seek to curb through empathy and enlightenment. I'm gonna shut up now I sound like the ****ing Dalai Lama.

[G_Man]

I can accept the food part of it but even that I find rather stupid. You can live for several days without food so it is reasonable to expect someone to go indoors to eat during Ramadan. However, you cannot live for days in that heat without water and I find it ludicrous that a country should think it necessary to make it illegal.

[Red_hot]

To be fair, IMO you should respect people beliefs/culture in their country. Unfortuantely this is not always the case in Britain, but let's save that debate for another day!

[G_Man]

I would probably lose my rag too. But ultimately I would accept that those emotions speak of the intolerance and lack of understanding that is inherent in us all and that we must constantly seek to curb through empathy and enlightenment. I'm gonna shut up now I sound like the ****ing Dalai Lama.

It's a health issue for me. It's not that far removed from saying "OK, no-one can breathe outside as I find it disrespectful. From now on it's illegal".

[Bob]

I can accept the food part of it but even that I find rather stupid. You can live for several days without food so it is reasonable to expect someone to go indoors to eat during Ramadan. However, you cannot live for days in that heat without water and I find it ludicrous that a country should think it necessary to make it illegal.

You are allowed to drink from dusk to dawn though, health wont be a consideration for their faith. I would have thought/hoped in Saudi there ain't a lot of British folk walking about in the midday sun!