Rafa's Last Season?

[Skillz]

What? oh that

[Tee]

So have we decided yet - is it Rafa's last season or not?

It will be his last season as PL also-rans, next season he will be in charge of the champs!!

[Greebo]

I think I love you

Sums up what it is all about.

Should I be worried?

[Neil Young]

Should I be worried?

Or flattered?

[pondus]

Should I be worried?

Or flattered?

Both!



Seriously, I think it's embarassing, considering what we have done this season, to continue debating this subject. Hopefully we can let this thread drop now, and maybe we can bump it in May and have a good laugh : prays :

[1 True Red]

I think the only thing which would lead to a cease fire here is either: the complete and utter capitulation of everyone to the Rafa can do no wrong POV, or; Rage (& others) getting what they want, which is clearly to see Rafa out of the door.

I for one, although I post rarely, am sick of reading the twisted and agenda ridden attacks on Rafa, along with some of the ridiculous name calling which goes on from both sides. I really do wonder why people bother to come on here with such bitter attitudes.

I posted some time ago why I believed that Rafa is the man for LFC. What I can't understand is why those who clearly have an agenda bother supporting the club at all. I can't recall ever feeling anything like the level of antipathy towards a manager of LFC that Rage & others seem to have for Rafa - with the notable exception of Souness - who really had done something to piss people off (the S*n exclusive).

So far all Rafa seems to have done to these people is to have bought an occasional dud, and not played the prettiest football they've ever seen. I can recall the last time we actually won the league (and about 16 seasons prior to that), and let me tell you, those who say the football was always fantastic, or that we steamrollered every other team we played, or that we never lost or had nervous moments or draws that should have been wins either have the rosiest tinted spectacles ever created, or only have their knowledge of the period from highlight DVDs and occasional players biographies. Sometimes we were awful, but ground out a result, sometimes we were untouchable but drew or lost to freak goals or Keeper MOMs and most of the time we were simply better than the opposition.

Rafa's way of playing seems to me to be closer to the Paisley/Fagan/Dalglish management eras than any other. He believes the entire team should attack and defend as a unit. So did Paisley et al. It used to be said that Ian Rush was our 1st line of defence.

Talking of sacking a manager who is not just trying to win as many trophies as he can for the Club, is building the club up for the future and investing heavily in youth players, but also comes across (to me at any rate) as a trhoroughly decent, conscientious, honest, and modest individual who has adopted the Club and the City (along with his clearly sensible and intelligent wife in support) seems to me to be at best bad manners, and at worst completely bonkers.

There, I've said what I wanted to get off my chest.

I salute you bud

Cracking post

[RedReet]

I tend not to post too often because generally speaking, i don't see the point. Get me in a pub with a few pints and my opinions will fly thick and fast (well, thicker the more pints I have). Besides, I'm hoping there'll soon be an award for champion lurker and I don't want to spoil my chances.

Anyway, thanks for all the nice comments. I may even try to remember your names...

YNWA

If you're really struggling, just take a quick peek to the left and you'll find a wee clue in red.

Nah, was a fine post, good to hear some sense for once.

[AFII]

Rafa will always do things his way, why should he do it in any other way?

He is probably the best manager around but he will make some mistakes just as every manager out there.

He has changed the club from top to bottom. We have some top class youngsters that even Wenger would be proud of.

Nemeth, Insua, San Jose, Darby and Spearing is the ones close to the first team. Insua is now even our best left back together with Aurelio.

We also have some top class ones that will most probably break through two, three years later.

Top class from Rafa.

He has changed the first team squad so they can now compete with any team in the world. No club want to meat us because we are the most difficult team to beat.

Top class again from Rafa.

He makes some tactical mistakes but that is made up by his other tactical masterstrokes.

He has made some top class signings and also some **** ones. As you expect any manager out there would do in the transfer market.

Rafa also respects our traditions and the Liverpool way 100%.

To sum it up.

Rafa is the best manager for Liverpool FC. You won't find any better than him.

[Skillz]

To sum it up.

Rafa is the best manager for Liverpool FC. You won't find any better than him.

[rage]

Rafa will always do things his way, why should he do it in any other way?

He is probably the best manager around but he will make some mistakes just as every manager out there.

He has changed the club from top to bottom. We have some top class youngsters that even Wenger would be proud of.

Nemeth, Insua, San Jose, Darby and Spearing is the ones close to the first team. Insua is now even our best left back together with Aurelio.

We also have some top class ones that will most probably break through two, three years later.

Top class from Rafa.

He has changed the first team squad so they can now compete with any team in the world. No club want to meat us because we are the most difficult team to beat.

Top class again from Rafa.

He makes some tactical mistakes but that is made up by his other tactical masterstrokes.

He has made some top class signings and also some **** ones. As you expect any manager out there would do in the transfer market.

Rafa also respects our traditions and the Liverpool way 100%.

To sum it up.

Rafa is the best manager for Liverpool FC. You won't find any better than him.

i don't necessarily disagree with any of that amigo but whether we like it or not if he doesn't deliver the title this year or most definitely next year then i really do see him losing his job.

[Skillz]

i don't necessarily disagree with any of that amigo but whether we like it or not if he doesn't deliver the title this year or most definitely next year then i really do see him losing his job.

Depends on lots of things. No way can it be that definitive, it's just not that simple.

[BG1973]

i don't necessarily disagree with any of that amigo but whether we like it or not if he doesn't deliver the title this year or most definitely next year then i really do see him losing his job.

But that's such horse****. Why in god's name would they want to sack him?

Do you actually think Our owners care whether we win the title or not? As long as we qualify for the CL and do well in that competition thus maintaining our global status they will be more than happy.

They wanted to get rid of him before because he started asking them difficult questions - publicly. That didn't go so well for them.

There is almost no chance of Benitez being sacked in the next couple of years.

[rage]

But that's such horse****. Why in god's name would they want to sack him?

Do you actually think Our owners care whether we win the title or not? As long as we qualify for the CL and do well in that competition thus maintaining our global status they will be more than happy.

They wanted to get rid of him before because he started asking them difficult questions - publicly. That didn't go so well for them.

There is almost no chance of Benitez being sacked in the next couple of years.

thats your opinion.

[Clapper]

so now you resort to name calling after i showed you your very own words as you asked me

and even if i was supposed to interpret your words differently from how you wrote them. how i'm supposed to do that to a very clear sentence that refers to both the league and champions league i'm not quite sure. are u?

oh and even if you were referring to the champions league you're wrong.

selective revisionist nonsense.

Name calling? What name do I call you?
And I give up, you simply won't answer my questions. Or probably can't.

[rage]

Pathetic, you know very well, that I am talking about the CL.

i consider using that word in the context you used as name calling.

its really useful this quote feature isn't it?

i've answered your questions and i've shown you your very own quote or have i made that up as well?

whether you like it or not we were top of the league long and winning european cups long before rafa ever dreamed of managing us and not the other way round.