Rafa's Last Season?

[Elvoz]

You talking to me or are you chewing a brick?

good lad

[Skillz]

Hey! no need to be offended, your post sits comfortably in the top 2 this week.

[Reece]

Nah I'm not having that lid.

I doubt Rafa even thinks abar taggert and the scum.

He can't influence what they do over the course of a season only what we do.

I didn't know you'd moved to Liverpool

[Roboklopp]

No your a pessimist, there is a difference, maybe you should look it up.

Amongst other things...

[Red Chilli]

The fact is we're closer than ever.

No, that's not a fact at all seeing as we have won the title a record number of times and we haven't challenged for it once in 18 years.

In my opinion, Rafa has had his fair crack of the whip after this season coming up and his finishes in the league have been mediocre.

[Infadel]

I was supporting the Reds when they were in the old Second Division, with Shankly in charge, and then right through our "glory years", so I've experienced all the highs and lows of the last 40 odd years (far far more highs!). Shankly built a dynasty that withstood the test of time and only faltered because the continuity of the old "Bootroom ethos" ended with Fagan/Evans/Dalglish/Hillsborough (take your pick). Modern football and everything that goes with it, such as Bosman transfers, massive wages, lucrative sponsorships, billionaire owners,foreign players (mercenaries, if you like!), super professional training regimes, chess-like tactics etc is a different world from the 60s,70s and early 80s.
Benitez, in my humble opinion, is our BEST bet to rekindle anything like Shanks intended the club to be. He achieved wonders at Valencia in the face of Barca and Real who had much greater resources than he had, and he is well on the way to doing something similar at Anfield in a far more competitive league. He's a great tactician which is a "must" for a modern manager/coach, but most importantly he is a "lucky" manager! He's brought some great young talent to the club, has probably the best scouting network in the world and has assembled a squad of first team players that WILL challenge for, and probably win the Premiership this year. He MUST be given the chance and TIME to achieve our goal - 4 years is nothing in the greater scheme of things!
I couldn't stand to ever see Man Utd beat our total of titles, and hopefully it will never happen in my lifetime!

[Elvoz]

No, that's not a fact at all seeing as we have won the title a record number of times and we haven't challenged for it once in 18 years.

In my opinion, Rafa has had his fair crack of the whip after this season coming up and his finishes in the league have been mediocre.

wait for the points bollocks that will follow

you got ya head screwed on pal

[Guest]

What's with your apostrophe elvoz, that's intriguing me !

[Skillz]

while im about
i worry rafa has an inferioriy complex over taggert

Not me. Rafa will get him, no doubt at all.

[Redspin]

failure to finish top - maybe a close 2nd - imo will see rafa gone

I disagree, but neither opinion is worth **** all really, so a pointless thread to start in the first place

[PTP]

No, that's not a fact at all seeing as we have won the title a record number of times and we haven't challenged for it once in 18 years.

In my opinion, Rafa has had his fair crack of the whip after this season coming up and his finishes in the league have been mediocre.

I kinda agree - I'd be hoping Liverpool will mount a serious challenge - we simply have too - whether or not rafa should be sacked at the end of the season is far too difficult to tell - eg what if the table finished like this

Manu 90pts
Chelsea 89pts
Arsenal 88 pts
Liverpool 87pts

plus we won one of the CL or say both the FA Cup/League Cup


etc - should rafa be sacked for finishing 4th again despite taking it to the wire and challenging!

[Red Chilli]

I was supporting the Reds when they were in the old Second Division, with Shankly in charge, and then right through our "glory years", so I've experienced all the highs and lows of the last 40 odd years (far far more highs!). Shankly built a dynasty that withstood the test of time and only faltered because the continuity of the old "Bootroom ethos" ended with Fagan/Evans/Dalglish/Hillsborough (take your pick). Modern football and everything that goes with it, such as Bosman transfers, massive wages, lucrative sponsorships, billionaire owners,foreign players (mercenaries, if you like!), super professional training regimes, chess-like tactics etc is a different world from the 60s,70s and early 80s.
Benitez, in my humble opinion, is our BEST bet to rekindle anything like Shanks intended the club to be. He achieved wonders at Valencia in the face of Barca and Real who had much greater resources than he had, and he is well on the way to doing something similar at Anfield in a far more competitive league. He's a great tactician which is a "must" for a modern manager/coach, but most importantly he is a "lucky" manager! He's brought some great young talent to the club, has probably the best scouting network in the world and has assembled a squad of first team players that WILL challenge for, and probably win the Premiership this year. He MUST be given the chance and TIME to achieve our goal - 4 years is nothing in the greater scheme of things!
I couldn't stand to ever see Man Utd beat our total of titles, and hopefully it will never happen in my lifetime!

It'll take a near miracle to stop it happening in the next 5 years mate.

[Red Chilli]

I kinda agree - I'd be hoping Liverpool will mount a serious challenge - we simply have too - whether or not rafa should be sacked at the end of the season is far too difficult to tell - eg what if the table finished like this

Manu 90pts
Chelsea 89pts
Arsenal 88 pts
Liverpool 87pts

plus we won one of the CL or say both the FA Cup/League Cup


etc - should rafa be sacked for finishing 4th again despite taking it to the wire and challenging!

No, a genuine title challenge would save him, assuming it was a genuine challenge and SCUM hadn't just lost their last 3-4 games because they were in an unassailable position.

[Roboklopp]

I was supporting the Reds when they were in the old Second Division, with Shankly in charge, and then right through our "glory years", so I've experienced all the highs and lows of the last 40 odd years (far far more highs!). Shankly built a dynasty that withstood the test of time and only faltered because the continuity of the old "Bootroom ethos" ended with Fagan/Evans/Dalglish/Hillsborough (take your pick). Modern football and everything that goes with it, such as Bosman transfers, massive wages, lucrative sponsorships, billionaire owners,foreign players (mercenaries, if you like!), super professional training regimes, chess-like tactics etc is a different world from the 60s,70s and early 80s.
Benitez, in my humble opinion, is our BEST bet to rekindle anything like Shanks intended the club to be. He achieved wonders at Valencia in the face of Barca and Real who had much greater resources than he had, and he is well on the way to doing something similar at Anfield in a far more competitive league. He's a great tactician which is a "must" for a modern manager/coach, but most importantly he is a "lucky" manager! He's brought some great young talent to the club, has probably the best scouting network in the world and has assembled a squad of first team players that WILL challenge for, and probably win the Premiership this year. He MUST be given the chance and TIME to achieve our goal - 4 years is nothing in the greater scheme of things!
I couldn't stand to ever see Man Utd beat our total of titles, and hopefully it will never happen in my lifetime!

Fantastic post- could only be better if it had paragraphs.

[Vermilion]

Whatever happens next season i don't want change for changes sake, if there is no-one better than Rafa out there it's irrelevant, and i'm not sure there are many if any better gaffers available to a club as large as us.