Rafa's Last Season?

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But that's such horse****. Why in god's name would they want to sack him?

Do you actually think Our owners care whether we win the title or not? As long as we qualify for the CL and do well in that competition thus maintaining our global status they will be more than happy.

They wanted to get rid of him before because he started asking them difficult questions - publicly. That didn't go so well for them.

There is almost no chance of Benitez being sacked in the next couple of years.

i don't agree with that bit

[BG1973]

i don't agree with that bit

I really don't think they were looking at replacing him because of results.

I think they wanted their own man in place who understood their agenda and would be happy to work around it - and not question them.

Your idea that if we don't win the league he will be gone is based on the notion that G&H care about finishing first.

And I don't agree with that...at all. You really do?

[wiw]

its motivational.

look how he's improved after the stories of klinnsman emerged.

Do you really honestly believe that? Psychological maybe, in that the players realised his job wasn't secure and this had an effect..but motivational?! Rafa lives and breathes football, we all know that. He works himself into the ground every day to improve LFC

I think the only thing which would lead to a cease fire here is either: the complete and utter capitulation of everyone to the Rafa can do no wrong POV, or; Rage (& others) getting what they want, which is clearly to see Rafa out of the door.

I for one, although I post rarely, am sick of reading the twisted and agenda ridden attacks on Rafa, along with some of the ridiculous name calling which goes on from both sides. I really do wonder why people bother to come on here with such bitter attitudes.

I posted some time ago why I believed that Rafa is the man for LFC. What I can't understand is why those who clearly have an agenda bother supporting the club at all. I can't recall ever feeling anything like the level of antipathy towards a manager of LFC that Rage & others seem to have for Rafa - with the notable exception of Souness - who really had done something to piss people off (the S*n exclusive).

So far all Rafa seems to have done to these people is to have bought an occasional dud, and not played the prettiest football they've ever seen. I can recall the last time we actually won the league (and about 16 seasons prior to that), and let me tell you, those who say the football was always fantastic, or that we steamrollered every other team we played, or that we never lost or had nervous moments or draws that should have been wins either have the rosiest tinted spectacles ever created, or only have their knowledge of the period from highlight DVDs and occasional players biographies. Sometimes we were awful, but ground out a result, sometimes we were untouchable but drew or lost to freak goals or Keeper MOMs and most of the time we were simply better than the opposition.

Rafa's way of playing seems to me to be closer to the Paisley/Fagan/Dalglish management eras than any other. He believes the entire team should attack and defend as a unit. So did Paisley et al. It used to be said that Ian Rush was our 1st line of defence.

Talking of sacking a manager who is not just trying to win as many trophies as he can for the Club, is building the club up for the future and investing heavily in youth players, but also comes across (to me at any rate) as a trhoroughly decent, conscientious, honest, and modest individual who has adopted the Club and the City (along with his clearly sensible and intelligent wife in support) seems to me to be at best bad manners, and at worst completely bonkers.

There, I've said what I wanted to get off my chest.

great post

[Clapper]

i consider using that word in the context you used as name calling.

its really useful this quote feature isn't it?

i've answered your questions and i've shown you your very own quote or have i made that up as well?

whether you like it or not we were top of the league long and winning european cups long before rafa ever dreamed of managing us and not the other way round.

No, you have taken my quote out of context, you haven't answered my questions about Ferguson and giving my opinion about your posts is not name calling.
If I called you a pathetic person, that would be, but I haven't.
Yes, we have been top of the league, but under Houllier we were not a force to be counted on in the CL.
And you know very well, that I don't refer to the years in the 80's, when we were winning the league.
But again, should Ferguson, with his less success than Rafa in the first 5 years, have been sacked?

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Seriously, this thread needs to die. Its embarrassing