Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Rafa explains why he is open to the idea of selling Alonso

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

    Rafa explains why he is open to the idea of selling Alonso

    He basically says what I and anyone with half of brain has been saying for some time. We have a lot of talent in the Middle of the park .. in fact we have some spare ... Alonso is a outstanding player ... but we can afford to cash in on him and reinvest that money on the left ... prudent if you ask me ... better to sell him whilst he still has a reputation than wait till he gets disinterested and his form suffers as a result I say, and I really do like Alonso ... but sometimes its actually good to move on, Xabi deserves to be the man in the same way Stevie is ... most likely at another Champions Lg Club

    Taken from 365

    Liverpool's summer-long pursuit of Gareth Barry remains top priority for manager Rafael Benitez, but Xabi Alonso's standing in the Anfield pecking order looks less certain.

    Alonso was originally tipped to make a £16million move to Juventus in the close season but when that fell through, Liverpool's Premier League rivals Arsenal moved into pole position for the Spain international's signature.

    But with Barry still very much an Aston Villa player - he played and scored in their UEFA Cup qualifier in Iceland last week to rule him out of the Champions League group stages - Alonso remains on Merseyside.

    Indeed, despite falling somewhat out of favour with Benitez, it was Alonso's second-half introduction in place of the ineffective Damien Plessis at Sunderland yesterday that roused a lethargic Liverpool to a 1-0 victory in their league opener.

    Compatriot Fernando Torres will rightly take the headlines for his fierce, swerving drive in the 82nd minute, but it was Alonso who fed him the ball to cap a galvanising cameo which dragged the Reds back into the game.

    Benitez insisted the midfielder started among the substitutes because of a niggling injury, but left the door firmly open for any potential suitors.

    "Xabi has had a dead leg so we had to protect him," said Benitez.

    "At the end of the game Plessis was injured too so we had to change. We knew Xabi was only maybe 80% of his ability so it was to protect him.

    "Xabi is our player and he is playing well. If he continues to play well I will be really pleased. But it doesn't matter if you have one good player and you need another one, you have to keep the balance of the team."

    Elaborating on the possibility of letting the European Championship winner go, Benitez added: "I explained to him why I needed money for signing other players.

    "He can understand if you have (Javier) Mascherano, Lucas, Steven Gerrard and then Plessis, you have four other midfielders and maybe you can sell one player."

    Benitez admitted that cashing in on Alonso would leave the club in a better position to invest in an unnamed left-footed Englishman - and it scarcely takes a detective to finger Barry as the target.

    Despite the 26-year-old Spain star's pedigree, it seems Barry's versatility and nationality, with UEFA still looking to enforce a minimum number of homegrown players on European clubs, are of the utmost importance.

    "When I was first talking with Xabi (about a transfer) we needed money. After these months it is not a question of money. We would have to have a massive offer because Alonso is a great player.

    "But if we sell one or two players we have enough money to bring in one more good player.

    "Don't forget we will need eight British players - and the left-footer we were talking about can play in three positions too."

    Ironically, the former Valencia coach had only just finished fending off questions about his own future on Merseyside when Alonso's was called into question.

    Newspaper reports over the weekend claimed he had been on the verge of resigning as Anfield boss in his frustration over the Barry deal and the ongoing boardroom problems involving co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett and chief executive Rick Parry.

    He moved to reaffirm his "100% commitment" to the club but his revelation yesterday that he been in contact - and agreement - with Hicks alone, suggested all is not running smoothly behind the scenes.

    "I have the support of at least one of the owners," he commented. "I sent emails to all of them, but he [Hicks] was clear we had the money."

    Defeated Sunderland manager Roy Keane was unfortunate to see his side take nothing from a game in which they had matched, and bettered, their opponents for long spells.

    But despite his disappointment, the Irishman was pleased with the efforts of a new-look side which included four debutants.

    "We have to take this on the chin but performance-wise I am pleased. We had one or two chances and when you play the big boys you have to take those chances," he said.

    "Last year when we played a team like Liverpool I hoped we'd get a result. When I woke up before this match I believed we would and that's the progress we have made.

    "I think Liverpool will have got on their bus and been glad to see the back of us and that's a good sign."
    Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
    #****CITY

    #2
    Always made perfect sense to me.

    Shame that Xabi's form let him down for the last couple of seasons because it might have been another player being sold on instead of him. But fact is, he's worth s few bob, therefore cashing in on him is a decent idea, especially when you consider it that Barry can play in a number of positions (left midfield, centre midfield and left back).

    It makes sense.

    Comment


      #3
      And I should reiterate for those of us in here who think that we might buy a fantasy right or left winger instead of Barry. Who is available and as good as you all make out ? Silva won't be going anywhere and was somewhat overrated for me and was never a real winger.

      So who ? There aren't many of them and if they were available at a price that fell within our budget, then maybe we would have gone for him. But no, CM 2008 is very different than the reality.

      Comment


        #4
        Well I don't agree with Rafa. People like Plessis or Lucas should be first out the door than Xabi but they won't be because they can't command anywhere near the fee Xabi can, patently because they are not as good (or ever likely to be IMO). Xabi offers the team far too much to contemplate selling him. I am certain Rafa has fallen out with him on a personal level and that's why we're getting these shenanigans. I wish they'd put it all aside, as the best outcome for LFC, IMO at least, is for Xabi to stay.
        White liquid in a bottle = Milk

        Purslow = C*nt

        Comment


          #5
          Originally posted by Dhav View Post
          Well I don't agree with Rafa. People like Plessis or Lucas should be first out the door than Xabi but they won't be because they can't command anywhere near the fee Xabi can, patently because they are not as good (or ever likely to be IMO). Xabi offers the team far too much to contemplate selling him. I am certain Rafa has fallen out with him on a personal level and that's why we're getting these shenanigans. I wish they'd put it all aside, as the best outcome for LFC, IMO at least, is for Xabi to stay.
          IF he can play as well when put under pressure as he played yesterday. I still have a niggling doubt about his ability to do that though.
          The Crushing Machine MKII

          Comment


            #6
            Originally posted by Dhav View Post
            Well I don't agree with Rafa. People like Plessis or Lucas should be first out the door than Xabi but they won't be because they can't command anywhere near the fee Xabi can, patently because they are not as good (or ever likely to be IMO). Xabi offers the team far too much to contemplate selling him. I am certain Rafa has fallen out with him on a personal level and that's why we're getting these shenanigans. I wish they'd put it all aside, as the best outcome for LFC, IMO at least, is for Xabi to stay.
            There's nothing to do about shenanigans mate, it's all conspiracy theories. Xabi is not as good as you believe he is. He can play well, a good player yes, but he needs to do it against more quality teams other than Sunderland, who were tiring on Saturday and couldn't press him.

            Xabi has a marketable value and he's 26. Lucas is 21 and Plessis is 19. I would rather keep these young players than Xabi. No brainer.

            Originally posted by El Jefecito View Post
            IF he can play as well when put under pressure as he played yesterday. I still have a niggling doubt about his ability to do that though.
            Exactmundo.

            Comment


              #7
              Originally posted by fredo View Post
              There's nothing to do about shenanigans mate, it's all conspiracy theories. Xabi is not as good as you believe he is. He can play well, a good player yes, but he needs to do it against more quality teams other than Sunderland, who were tiring on Saturday and couldn't press him.

              Xabi has a marketable value and he's 26. Lucas is 21 and Plessis is 19. I would rather keep these young players than Xabi. No brainer.



              Exactmundo.
              He is though and thats the difference between the those for and against. On his day Xabi is imperious there is no other player I'd want as my CM playmaker. Those for think he'll get back to that level. Those against don't. As is usually the case the answer will be somewhere in the middle.

              But alas it's easier to take a polarised position. Hence all the to'ing and fro'ing over the last couple of months.

              Myself, I lean towards Barry as I think his "somewhere in the middle" will suit us better. But I'm not going to agitate against Xabi because in the worst case Lucas will come in for him and he will do a fine job. We may not reach the same level but hopefully he'll be able to create enough of a platform for the "matchwinners".
              Last edited by El Jefecito; 18-08-08, 03:46 AM.
              The Crushing Machine MKII

              Comment


                #8
                Originally posted by fredo View Post
                There's nothing to do about shenanigans mate, it's all conspiracy theories. Xabi is not as good as you believe he is. He can play well, a good player yes, but he needs to do it against more quality teams other than Sunderland, who were tiring on Saturday and couldn't press him.

                Xabi has a marketable value and he's 26. Lucas is 21 and Plessis is 19. I would rather keep these young players than Xabi. No brainer.



                Exactmundo.
                Exactly ... kind of reminds me of why Rafa is soi successful in the transfer market he sells players whilst they still have something .. unlike managers in the past .. buy high sell low ... thats bad business
                Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                #****CITY

                Comment


                  #9
                  It's not Xabi who is deficient, it is the team that lacks the forward movement to give him targets to pass to. I'm not surprised Arsenal are interested in him - watch him smash it if he ends up there. With the movement of the likes of Adebayor, Van Persie, Walcott, Fabregas, Nasri et al, he would always have options to aim for. At Arsenal, he wouldn't even need time on the ball, he would get it and not bother looking for a pass - he could just hit it into space straight away and you can guarantee there'll be someone chasing it and invariably will get on the end of it. Unlike our relatively static midfield and attack. Even Liege moved better than us in forward positions - their movement put us to shame.
                  Last edited by Dhav; 18-08-08, 04:12 AM.
                  White liquid in a bottle = Milk

                  Purslow = C*nt

                  Comment


                    #10
                    Originally posted by Dhav View Post
                    It's not Xabi who is deficient, it is the team that lacks the forward movement to give him targets to pass to. I'm not surprised Arsenal are interested in him - watch him smash it if he ends up there. With the movement of the likes of Adebayor, Van Persie, Walcott, Fabregas, Nasri et al, he would always have options to aim for. At Arsenal, he wouldn't even need time on the ball, he would get it and not bother looking for a pass - he could just hit it into space straight away and you can guarantee there'll be someone chasing it and invariably will get on the end of it. Unlike our relatively static midfield and attack. Even Liege moved better than us in forward positions - their movement put us to shame.
                    Sorry mate, can't buy into something as black and white as that.
                    Last edited by El Jefecito; 18-08-08, 05:25 AM.
                    The Crushing Machine MKII

                    Comment


                      #11
                      I hear what you are saying but I would not agree completely with that assessment. I believe actually our movement is many times improved when we have Masher in the Center of the Park instead of Xabi because he gives the mid field players the confidence to flow forward and link up with the forwards, thats when you see the beautiful one touch triangles and free flowing movement, game intelligence and creativity. Because make no mistake about it, its there I have seen it with my own eyes. Another thing about Xabi which I beleive is a an issue, he is completely 100 % too light weight for this leage
                      Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                      #****CITY

                      Comment


                        #12
                        Most foreign players I have seen come to the EPL have beefed up over there 1st and 2nd seasons, not Xabi and for me it hurts his game. When he plays theres a sense of weakness through the middle and our team holds back a little ... I think we are the wrong team for him right now, although I geneunely hope I am proved wrong
                        Anybody who criticizes Klopp ever is a James Blunt. Nov 2015
                        #****CITY

                        Comment


                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nicey View Post
                          I hear what you are saying but I would not agree completely with that assessment. I believe actually our movement is many times improved when we have Masher in the Center of the Park instead of Xabi because he gives the mid field players the confidence to flow forward and link up with the forwards, thats when you see the beautiful one touch triangles and free flowing movement, game intelligence and creativity. Because make no mistake about it, its there I have seen it with my own eyes. Another thing about Xabi which I beleive is a an issue, he is completely 100 % too light weight for this leage
                          Yet somehow yesterday he was the best player on the pitch by a country mile!
                          The Crushing Machine MKII

                          Comment


                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dhav View Post
                            It's not Xabi who is deficient, it is the team that lacks the forward movement to give him targets to pass to. I'm not surprised Arsenal are interested in him - watch him smash it if he ends up there. With the movement of the likes of Adebayor, Van Persie, Walcott, Fabregas, Nasri et al, he would always have options to aim for. At Arsenal, he wouldn't even need time on the ball, he would get it and not bother looking for a pass - he could just hit it into space straight away and you can guarantee there'll be someone chasing it and invariably will get on the end of it. Unlike our relatively static midfield and attack. Even Liege moved better than us in forward positions - their movement put us to shame.
                            100 % agree....We are too slow over the park......Nothing to do with Xabi's game, he needs to pass to players who are mobile, something we not....Sad to say but based on Sat performance, we won't win the league.I hope and pray we do but can't see it happening. Rafa needs to take his head out of his own ass and unleash the team on the PL...No holding back, simple as that. This team does have it, but only sometimes...
                            Liverpool FC - League Champions 2011/2012

                            Comment


                              #15
                              Gareth Barry won't help us win the title. The team playing with a more attacking mentality and better players in the Kuyt Benayoun positions will

                              Fredo, no one can really win with you. When Xabi has a good game it's because the opposition were tiring. Were they tiring right at the beginning of the second half? You talk about backing the team and players but you're continued digs at Xabi are a joke

                              I'm going to be grateful when this summer window is closed. It's been an absolute joke. Like I said I hope we get Barry and see what he can do, if only to stop you posting your silly justifcations of selling Alonso

                              You've turned every thread of late into a farce, including the game thread on Saturday

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X