Im confused with our fans...

[rage]

That's what i mean about perfection, our performance at Chelsea was immense and to expect that regularly isnt realistic.

As for not finishing teams off, the Tottenham game was down to bad luck, on another day we'd have scored at least one of the FIVE chances we failed to convert.

Get back to reality mate.

well if the spurs, stoke, villa and athletico games are reality we'll never win the league.

[Craig_H]

well if the Spursare****e, stoke, villa and athletico games are reality we'll never win the league.

Christ mate, it happens sometimes.

You've basically pointed to every game we havent won - and complained about it. Which proves you basically demand perfection (win every game) or you're not satisfied

As i said, get back to reality.

[rage]

Christ mate, it happens sometimes.

You've basically pointed to every game we havent won - and complained about it. Which proves you basically demand perfection (win every game) or you're not satisfied

As i said, get back to reality.

that's because its the same reasons why we dropped points each time

[pondus]

Put it in the joke section when we don't win the league. That will be hilarious!

We had a few chances admittedly but we never went for a second and stuck to counter attack football until they equalised. We were playing negatively and were too comfortable letting them play when they should have been killed off.

Did you even watch the game? For the first 25 minutes of the second half Spursare****e barely crossed the halfway line.

[Craig_H]

that's because its the same reasons why we dropped points each time

The reason being that we didnt manage to outscore the opposition, as far as i can see. Other than that, i dont see a correlation in all four of those games. You mention about not finishing teams off, but we were never ahead against Stoke or Villa, so it's not a case of 'finishing them off'.

This just backs up my feeling that you'll complain about every single game we dont win, failing to realise that in the real world, no team will win all the time.

[rage]

The reason being that we didnt manage to outscore the opposition, as far as i can see. Other than that, i dont see a correlation in all four of those games. You mention about not finishing teams off, but we were never ahead against Stoke or Villa, so it's not a case of 'finishing them off'.

This just backs up my feeling that you'll complain about every single game we dont win, failing to realise that in the real world, no team will win all the time.

we never took our chances. we had plenty in each of them games. thats what i mean by never finishing teams off. we don't have to be in the lead but rather when we're on top of the game.

[Craig_H]

we never took our chances. we had plenty in each of them games. thats what i mean by never finishing teams off. we don't have to be in the lead but rather when we're on top of the game.

Ok, so not taking our chances is something that's exclusive to LFC then?

It doesnt happen to every club then?

That isnt just how football is sometimes, no?

If we'd dropped 12 points this season, i might agree that there's a problem but we've dropped the joint fewest amount of points this season and we've produced the same level of output as the league title favourites.

At what stage will you NOT have something to complain about? When we drop zero points ever?

Teams WILL fail to take chances, teams WILL drop points, that's football.

How anyone can not be happy with 26 points from 11 games, is beyond me. Sure it could've been better, but we 'could' have won every single game. If football worked that way, we'd all be predicting every result and bookies would be out of busines.

[rage]

Ok, so not taking our chances is something that's exclusive to LFC then?

It doesnt happen to every club then?

That isnt just how football is sometimes, no?

If we'd dropped 12 points this season, i might agree that there's a problem but we've dropped the joint fewest amount of points this season and we've produced the same level of output as the league title favourites.

At what stage will you NOT have something to complain about? When we drop zero points ever?

Teams WILL fail to take chances, teams WILL drop points, that's football.

How anyone can not be happy with 26 points from 11 games, is beyond me. Sure it could've been better, but we 'could' have won every single game. If football worked that way, we'd all be predicting every result and bookies would be out of busines.

we'll just have to see come the end of the season then if these were vital points dropped.

i don't think there's ever a case of 'we could have won every game' more a case of we should have won certain games. the games i mentioned so far this season were such games.

[slimbimjim]

When ManUre lost earlier they had 23 shots or so on goal and lost. That is unlucky but you have to accept that these things happen.

Get over it and move onto the next game.

[EwarWoo]

we never took our chances.

3 off the posts and a great save is damn bad luck. I wouldn't even class that as not taking your chances.

[donpisci]

I know we lost, and we're all disappointed, but why does it feel like some people have been waiting for us to slip up?! We've lost 1 game and some of you are making out it's the end of the world! I hope the players have a better mentality than some of you lot!

We've can't focus on the negatives- it was ultimately one of those games where we could have been still playing now and we still wouldn't have scored a second. Every team has days like that.
If people want to bitch and moan then fair enough, but you've got to give credit where it's due. We've had some cracking performances and won a lot of games which we would have drawn or lost in previous seasons.
The true test of character will be on Tuesday and Saturday.

[Craig_H]

we'll just have to see come the end of the season then if these were vital points dropped.

i don't think there's ever a case of 'we could have won every game' more a case of we should have won certain games. the games i mentioned so far this season were such games.

Should Chelsea have beaten Spurs at Stamford Bridge?

Should Man Utd have beaten Newcastle at OT?

Should Arsenal have beaten Hull at Emirates?

See - it happens.

[Chrono]

How did we never go for a 2nd? We hit the woodwork THREE times, created a decent chance for Kuyt and a golden one for Alonso.

What was our intention in creating those chances then, not to score a 2nd goal?

Fair point and my comment was born mainly out of sheer frustration BUT every single year I have supported this club has been a false dawn (league) and I'm scared to death about getting carried away this year particularly as I don't think we have been as good as the points we have.

I'm happy about the start, very happy but incredibly cautious and the Tottenham result grates because I believe we could have done more to win regardless of hitting the post. They are relagation fodder on a false Harry Houdini dream and we should have been the ones to end their confidence especially when a goal up but as many have said I guess it's just one of those results.

[Craig_H]

Fair point and my comment was born mainly out of sheer frustration BUT every single year I have supported this club has been a false dawn (league) and I'm scared to death about getting carried away this year particularly as I don't think we have been as good as the points we have.

I'm happy about the start, very happy but incredibly cautious and the Tottenham result grates because I believe we could have done more to win regardless of hitting the post. They are relagation fodder on a false Harry Houdini dream and we should have been the ones to end their confidence especially when a goal up but as many have said I guess it's just one of those results.

Sorry mate, but they arent relegation fodder at all. If you look at the bottom 6 clubs, Spurs are the only one who wont be anywhere near a relegation battle this season. They are 6 points off Everton in 7th place and they'll easily climb the table.

It was one of those days where we didnt get what we deserved but they're usually rare and the way we played leaves me with no concerns.

[Skillz]

because i see the very same cracks that have seen us falter in seasons past.

the scenario i'd be happy with craig is a consistency similar to when we beat chelsea. some of the passing in the second half was of the highest order. but we only seem to be able to do that when the opposition press.

too often i see a lack of creativity and an inability to finish teams off. when these weaknesses are addressed i'll accept that sometimes we'll lose the odd game down to bad luck. until then i really don't think bad luck has anything to do with it.

i complain about the opening of our season because i know that it could and should have been so much better. we dropped two points to stoke at hme and got beat away by the bottom of the league table. my fear is that these points lost will come back to haunt us

We are not going to have a perfect season. **** will happen. In fact it just did.

You see cracks but I see a team improving at a great rate. We miss Torres and would of won easy with him against Spurs. Fact is we have managed pretty well without him and are in the mix.

What I see is a team starting to pass the ball about with confidence and verve. We didnt have that earlier in the season and manage to get the results we need.

The Spurs game involved some of our best football for the year and that should be our focus, sure Rafa has to address the way in which we managed to find a way to lose that game but he also has to make sure the team keep playing with confidence and verve.

It's all before us and this one loss will not cost us the league but how we react to it could. Onwards and upwards.