Is Mascherano developing into an even better player?

[bobbyfallon]

He seems to be nearing perfection, he's like a tenacious little Warthog. Don't forget who set up the winner against manure.

how could i - it was kuyt

[BG1973]

in a liverpool team his shortcomings are exposed more.

ha ha ha.


stone wall classic.

you swallow a joke book this morning Rage?

[meffin]

didi was at least as good and he scored goals. masch is a good player but is nowhere near the complete central midfielder. in his national team with creativity all around him his strengths add balance, in a liverpool team his shortcomings are exposed more.

hardly

[rage]

ha ha ha.


stone wall classic.

you swallow a joke book this morning Rage?

you should really read the sentence in full. masch is a defensive midfielder and in a team with lots of attacking options he brings balance, its not the same in a liverpool team. playing for the national team masch appears to be more dynamic, is this because he is or because of the quality around him?

hardly

didi scored goals, doesn't matter if it was 1 or 11 he had it in his locker. masch doesn't as of yet.

now before people start i'm not having a go at the lad. i think he's a very good player but i think he's nowhere near a complete central midfielder. i actually think like for like essien is better for instance.

[Sarb]

I think he's been disappointing of late. Performance levels have dropped. He's even giving away stupid fouls on a regular basis

[BG1973]

[QUOTE=rage;1204098]you should really read the sentence in full. masch is a defensive midfielder and in a team with lots of attacking options he brings balance, its not the same in a liverpool team. playing for the national team masch appears to be more dynamic, is this because he is or because of the quality around him?



I did and i take your point but to pick out masherano for a bit of flak is pretty funny.

you may as well have a pop at gerrard and Torres as well.

[dww]

I think he's been disappointing of late. Performance levels have dropped. He's even giving away stupid fouls on a regular basis

True. Was much better against West Brom than he has been in many of the recent games (although Alonso has been less than excellent defensively of late too).

[blacky]

didi was at least as good and he scored goals. masch is a good player but is nowhere near the complete central midfielder. in his national team with creativity all around him his strengths add balance, in a liverpool team his shortcomings are exposed more.

Masch has pace to burn. He makes tackles and interceptions that Didi would never have been able to. Loved Kaiser but IMO Masch will surpass him as a midfielder in the next couple of years. I think Masch has the potential to be the best DM in the world.

[rage]

[QUOTE=BG1973;1204692]

you should really read the sentence in full. masch is a defensive midfielder and in a team with lots of attacking options he brings balance, its not the same in a liverpool team. playing for the national team masch appears to be more dynamic, is this because he is or because of the quality around him?



I did and i take your point but to pick out masherano for a bit of flak is pretty funny.

you may as well have a pop at gerrard and Torres as well.

i wasn't having a pop i just don't think he's the complete central midfielder

i do think that he'll never have the attacking attributes of an essien but the way we play i reckon he's role will be to cover for the attacking fullbacks so i'm not really concerned about this 'shortcoming' in his game.

[BG1973]

[QUOTE=rage;1204961]

i wasn't having a pop i just don't think he's the complete central midfielder

i do think that he'll never have the attacking attributes of an essien but the way we play i reckon he's role will be to cover for the attacking fullbacks so i'm not really concerned about this 'shortcoming' in his game.

Fair enough. I agree although he's not too bad going forward by any means. pacy little fella.

do you think chelsea's 'new' style has a place for a makelele? or does it need an essien who as you say is just as accomplished going forward?

[meffin]

you should really read the sentence in full. masch is a defensive midfielder and in a team with lots of attacking options he brings balance, its not the same in a liverpool team. playing for the national team masch appears to be more dynamic, is this because he is or because of the quality around him?



didi scored goals, doesn't matter if it was 1 or 11 he had it in his locker. masch doesn't as of yet.

now before people start i'm not having a go at the lad. i think he's a very good player but i think he's nowhere near a complete central midfielder. i actually think like for like essien is better for instance.

masc scored a screamer against reading, thats 1 goal

[AFII]

He has played like this all the time for Argentina.

[El Jefecito]

[QUOTE=rage;1204961]

i wasn't having a pop i just don't think he's the complete central midfielder

i do think that he'll never have the attacking attributes of an essien but the way we play i reckon he's role will be to cover for the attacking fullbacks so i'm not really concerned about this 'shortcoming' in his game.

Essien is a 1 in 10 goal scorer. He's not really all that as an attacking force. In his new role and when he's not playing against Xabi, I think he could be as influential.

[El Jefecito]

No El Jefecito thread is complete without:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QbjqWeIiE8

[Dhav]

True. Was much better against West Brom than he has been in many of the recent games (although Alonso has been less than excellent defensively of late too).

I think you'll find Alonso has been perfect in practically every way