TBH i have gone off the idea of giving Rafa a new contract, wait until the end of the season and see where we are then imo.
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Why?Originally posted by The_Milkman View PostTBH i have gone off the idea of giving Rafa a new contract, wait until the end of the season and see where we are then imo.
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Disagree, get him signed up - then sign up the players, i.e. Agger, Arbeloa and Kuyt and let's see some stability so we can concentrate fully on the league. This will always be a distraction.Originally posted by The_Milkman View PostTBH i have gone off the idea of giving Rafa a new contract, wait until the end of the season and see where we are then imo.
Even if we finish third - I still want him signed up.* The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.
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Insane. Our best ever start for what, 15 years? If now isnt the time to give the man a contract then I dont know what isOriginally posted by The_Milkman View PostTBH i have gone off the idea of giving Rafa a new contract, wait until the end of the season and see where we are then imo.
Totally baffled by Saturday's team selection and even more baffled and then infuriated at the subs. But jesus, we're top of both ther Premier League and our Champions League groupI saw a dead fish on the pavement and thought "what did you expect?"
There's no water round here stupid, should have stayed where it was wet
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I think that the article posted by MrM in the news section gives an articulate and logically sound explanation for the subs. Not to say that they are what I would have done or that they were the optimal solution but I don't think they are as ludicrous as some are making out.Originally posted by Fierce View PostInsane. Our best ever start for what, 15 years? If now isnt the time to give the man a contract then I dont know what is
Totally baffled by Saturday's team selection and even more baffled and then infuriated at the subs. But jesus, we're top of both ther Premier League and our Champions League group
I still tend to feel that the only starting eleven change I would have made would have been Agger for Hyypia (although the latter has been playing well against a team like Hull I would prefer the ability to get the ball out of the back on the deck that Agger provides)."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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rafa can try dress it up however he likes. he made some bad decisions saturday.Originally posted by dww View PostI think that the article posted by MrM in the news section gives an articulate and logically sound explanation for the subs. Not to say that they are what I would have done or that they were the optimal solution but I don't think they are as ludicrous as some are making out.
I still tend to feel that the only starting eleven change I would have made would have been Agger for Hyypia (although the latter has been playing well against a team like Hull I would prefer the ability to get the ball out of the back on the deck that Agger provides).
sami - shouldnt have played
agger should have
keane should have started
bad substitutions"Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.
"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."


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Sami was fantastic and he didn't put a foot wrong.Originally posted by bobbyfallon View Postrafa can try dress it up however he likes. he made some bad decisions saturday.
sami - shouldnt have played
agger should have
keane should have started
bad substitutions
As for Keane, some said he needed a break and put on the bench last week.
Don't know what to think now.
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I'm not sure there is any case for Keane starting on his performances this season. Sami/Agger is debatable even if I agree with you. The substitutions have a logic to them and the stats show that Rafa is better at altering games with substitutes than people give him credit for, so I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt unless he does something truly inexplicable like switching to 3-5-2.Originally posted by bobbyfallon View Postrafa can try dress it up however he likes. he made some bad decisions saturday.
sami - shouldnt have played
agger should have
keane should have started
bad substitutions"The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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sami was good in fairness to him yes.Originally posted by fredo View PostSami was fantastic and he didn't put a foot wrong.
As for Keane, some said he needed a break and put on the bench last week.
Don't know what to think now.
agger adds a goal threat and has more pace too.
as for keane he has to start - he will come good but needs playing time. babel needs game time too.
im sorry but rafa made mistakes saturday from the start."Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.
"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."


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Originally posted by dww View PostI'm not sure there is any case for Keane starting on his performances this season. Sami/Agger is debatable even if I agree with you. The substitutions have a logic to them and the stats show that Rafa is better at altering games with substitutes than people give him credit for, so I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt unless he does something truly inexplicable like switching to 3-5-2.
rafa has made some match winning subs this year but if he had the right team out saturday we wouldnt be debating the logic of his substitutions"Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.
"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."


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Thing is Bobby lots of posters have been calling out for Rafa to drop Keane. Last week one poster on here was acting a bit smug and saying "I told Rafa to drop Keane - he did and we won (against Blackburn)". So now all of a sudden Rafa should be picking Keane? I'm not saying you were one of these people at all, I'm just saying people seem to change their mind if it means they can use it as a stick to beat Rafa with.Originally posted by bobbyfallon View Postas for keane he has to start - he will come good but needs playing time. babel needs game time too.
im sorry but rafa made mistakes saturday from the start.
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actually hang on didnt sami give away the free kick that led to the first goal??Originally posted by fredo View PostSami was fantastic and he didn't put a foot wrong.
As for Keane, some said he needed a break and put on the bench last week.
Don't know what to think now."Sky and Setanta have the right to choose their games and it will be the same for everyone. So Mr Ferguson will not be complaining about fixtures and a campaign against United.
"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."


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stop picking on bobby, you bully.............Originally posted by Reggie View PostThing is Bobby lots of posters have been calling out for Rafa to drop Keane. Last week one poster on here was acting a bit smug and saying "I told Rafa to drop Keane - he did and we won (against Blackburn)". So now all of a sudden Rafa should be picking Keane? I'm not saying you were one of these people at all, I'm just saying people seem to change their mind if it means they can use it as a stick to beat Rafa with.
Reece, get off my wife.:whatever:
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