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    #46
    Originally posted by positive pete View Post
    you a got a direct line pal

    used and abused and ya cant see it

    still as i say nowt wrong with lookin after number one
    Originally posted by elvoz View Post
    he knows how to play to a crowd does rafa true enough
    i am waitin now for the i,ll never go the match again if he walks brigade

    Did you two go to the same school?
    "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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      #47
      Originally posted by REDrascal View Post
      The alternative is the Press doing it, with rumour of what Rafa thinks or may have said, that will piss H&G off equally, i will back Rafa before those two fools every day.
      I don't think as foreign owners they've done too much wrong this season. last season they ****ed up. but it looks like they've learnt from it. its not their fault whats happened in the global market. no one is building stadiums at present. we've spent money on players. its not their fault that rafa blew most of the budget on a player that clearly doesn't fit his preferred system.

      Everybody has to answer to someone. If you don't like the person you're immediately answerable to then you have a choice, put up and shut up or walk. its the same in every job throughout the world.
      Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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        #48
        Originally posted by BFG View Post
        Did you two go to the same school?
        3000 post aye

        am sorry ive missed most i gotta say like

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          #49
          Originally posted by positive pete View Post
          you a got a direct line pal

          used and abused and ya cant see it

          still as i say nowt wrong with lookin after number one
          No, just make my own mind up is all, unlike many.

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            #50
            Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
            I don't think as foreign owners they've done too much wrong this season. last season they ****ed up. but it looks like they've learnt from it. its not their fault whats happened in the global market. no one is building stadiums at present. we've spent money on players. its not their fault that rafa blew most of the budget on a player that clearly doesn't fit his preferred system.

            Everybody has to answer to someone. If you don't like the person you're immediately answerable to then you have a choice, put up and shut up or walk. its the same in every job throughout the world.
            am liking the cut of ya jib fella

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              #51
              Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
              I don't think as foreign owners they've done too much wrong this season. last season they ****ed up. but it looks like they've learnt from it. its not their fault whats happened in the global market. no one is building stadiums at present. we've spent money on players. its not their fault that rafa blew most of the budget on a player that clearly doesn't fit his preferred system.

              Everybody has to answer to someone. If you don't like the person you're immediately answerable to then you have a choice, put up and shut up or walk. its the same in every job throughout the world.
              The irony here is immense, is it not Hicks who also wants rid of parry, i don't think we all have the facts here, lets just see how it develops before as most seem to be doing and slagging of our manager.

              Oh by the way, when if Rafa does walk as 'elvos' seems to be worried he's planning towards, H&G will likely install a yes man, who won't pressure for top players, or moan about anything.
              Last edited by Vermilion; 16-01-09, 01:19 PM.

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                #52
                Originally posted by elvoz View Post
                the fear here is he doesnt fancy us for the league and knows we may struggle from now on

                thus trying to force hands for a new contract

                ive said it before 3rd or 4th aint no good to me

                clever fella is rafa
                I don't believe he is trying to force anybody's hand - he has stated he's happy with the length and financial terms of the contract. If that is all that he was looking out for he would have signed it by now.

                I genuinely believe he has the football club's best interest at heart and maybe feels to take us onto the next level he needs to assume control of the academy (how many players have broken through, it not as though we haven't brought a few in) and transfers in and out of the club.
                Last edited by cled the red; 16-01-09, 01:25 PM.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by jonric View Post
                  Why didn't Rafa say he would put contract talks on hold until the end of the season ? If we had won the Prem he would have been in an incredibly strong position to demand whatever he wanted with backing from fans and players. Instead it disrupts our season and if we end up with nothing at the end of the season he is in a weak position...has he lost faith in the team/his ability and does he think that this is his strongest moment ?
                  If I was an owner looking at giving him full control over the transfers I would have to ask him about Keane - £20+million and not playing ? That cannot have helped his case.
                  At the end of the day though its support the manager and get coco the clown out !
                  Maybe Keane wasn't a priority signing for Benitez? I think he would have preferred to sign Gareth Barry.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by REDrascal View Post
                    Oh by the way, when if Rafa does walk as 'elvos' seems to be worried he's planning towards, H&G will likely install a yes man, who won't pressure for top players, or moan about anything.
                    its only natural that if you own something you'll want a degree of control. its also natural they'd prefer to work with someone that didn't give them so much hassle. and if a yes man got results then most folk would be happy. if that yes man didn't produce the goods, what benefit would this be to the owners?

                    Perhaps I'm not seeing the true picture and they are the enemy, in which case I'll eat a **** sandwich and grovel in the corner balancing a machete on my nose.
                    Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                      its only natural that if you own something you'll want a degree of control. its also natural they'd prefer to work with someone that didn't give them so much hassle. and if a yes man got results then most folk would be happy. if that yes man didn't produce the goods, what benefit would this be to the owners?

                      Perhaps I'm not seeing the true picture and they are the enemy, in which case I'll eat a **** sandwich and grovel in the corner balancing a machete on my nose.
                      Run the club as cheaply as possible raking in the merchandising and tv cash, Hicks has already stated PUBLICLY that winning is not the be all and end all for making money from LFC, but Rafa is a floor in that plan as he wants the best players so he can win trophies and get LFC back where we belong, not settling for mediocrity, and not just having a full time prem job with big bucks and no pressure, which a yes man would be happy with.. .
                      Last edited by Vermilion; 16-01-09, 01:43 PM.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by REDrascal View Post
                        Run the club as cheaply as possible raking in the merchandising and tv cash, Hicks has already stated PUBLICLY that winning is not the be all and end all for making money from LFC, but Rafa is a floor in that plan as he wants the best players, and not just a fulltime prem job with big bucks and no pressure. .
                        in that case i refer you to my 2nd paragraph.
                        Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                          #57
                          Take the focus off the team and squarley onto rafa - will be interesting to see what everyone thinks if we win the next 5 games or whatever.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                            in that case i refer you to my 2nd paragraph.
                            No, obviously i could be wrong and you right, but i just think this jumping on Rafa by so many was a little bit wrong, he's a man of principals is all, and is fed up with Parry's inadequacies. imo.

                            As a matter of fact Hicks and Rafa could be in this together to get shut of Parry, who really knows, not us for sure.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by BFG View Post
                              I think the point is though that none of the above would tell the manager what a player is worth. The manager will tell them that and then they try and do the deal. I think all this friction comes from the fact that Rafa doesn't think Parry should be telling him what a certain player's value to the squad would be.
                              That would be my understanding too. You’ve only got to see some of the prices the Scum have paid for some players to see that.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by positive pete View Post
                                be the landan lot

                                in rafa we trust zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
                                I imagine you know **** all about the 'landan lot'.

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