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Anyone else think that not having Keane on the bench worked to our advantage? Less pressure was put on Benni to perform because he didn’t have to listen to the groans for coming on at the expense of a £20m striker, and if Keane was left on the bench again as we searched for a goal I doubt the crowd would have remained as upbeat and supportive.If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
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also - what was with the comments almost trying blame alonso!Originally posted by Neil Young View PostHow come these ****s at Sky are saying Alonso going in for a challenge on his feet is as dangerous as Lampard sliding in?
the commentator said something ****ing ridiculous along the lines off
"i'm not trying to start a witch hunt here, but the last xxx of red cards awarded in favour of liverpool, xabi alonso has been involved!" - what? so ****ing what? it's his fault he has been kicked and fouled?
granted yesterday looked a harsh decision on lampard, but then jamie redknapp comes out with "alonso didn't cover himself in glory there" what the **** he didn't dive, he didn't jump up and make a scene, he was involved in a 50-50 challenge and ended up on the floor - what was redknapp expecting him to do......back flip the challenge and land on his feet like a gymnast.
anyway enough of that ****e - we fully deserved the win regardless of any decision. We were the better team, the more ambitious team and we wanted it more, chelsea just looked poor, there is defo problems there. it's almost like phil scolari is too nice a guy to be managing them and he has this look on his face sometimes thats says "why the **** have i got so many spoilt, whinging primadonnas in my squad"
Just before the sending off i was saying to a mate, that there is no arguement in the difference in class between gerrard and lampard, gerrard was involved in everything yet I struggle to remember lampard doing anything other than pop up here and there with a sideways easy ball. He's lucky he had a harsh sending off to save him from being in the headlines for such a ****e performance.
And now that man....torres - ****in hell i love him soooooo much
- that celebration was ****ing class - hopefully he starts to get firing on all cylinders now and fires us right into th mix for the title
i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do
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PTP, I agree Lampard is not in Gerrards class.
When his team are firing on all cylinders Lampard comes into his own and is at times sensational, always picking up loose balls on the edge of the area and keeping play going.
But when his team is of the boil he can do little about it and suffers as a result. Gerrards ability to dribble and run with the ball means he is able to lift the tempo of the game and get his team going. That is the biggest difference between the two and what sets them apart.Forwards.......
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Originally posted by Operation View PostThat's just wrong. The didn't come at us at all. And the game was following exactly the same pattern as the others until the last 5 mins.
the revisionism starts the minute a game is over.
chelsea, while obviously a very good team, are a shadow of what they were under mourinho and even grant and had no interest in winning yesterday. they seemed pretty much the same to me after lampard was sent off. (and whether we like it or not, riley's view made lampard's challenge look bad but he got the ball and it was xabi that kicked him. not that i give a **** and i think xabi is totally underrated as a hard as ****in nails midfielder anyway) they have become seriously suspect from set-pieces and we didn't look like troubling them from any of ours despite so many corners and a couple of ****ups from alex.
one of our two genuinely world class players saved us. and i'm ****in delighted because that's what world class players do. but let's not get carried away. there's no guarantee that if we played stoke/wigan/etc tomorrow that we'd beat them. a demoralised, discordant chelsea team resisted for 89 minutes. football is so funny though because benayoun seemed to be the player that gave us the lift and a bit of guile that we needed.
onwards and upwards but we're far from title-winners just yet.Felching ≠ Gerbilling
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exactly - lampard is great when chelsea are playing well, dragging the other team apart and he gets himself in some space and has time to lift his head and pick out passes, or have a pop at goal. He's a good player, but he is nowhere near the top range of world starsOriginally posted by DannyMan2006 View PostPTP, I agree Lampard is not in Gerrards class.
When his team are firing on all cylinders Lampard comes into his own and is at times sensational, always picking up loose balls on the edge of the area and keeping play going.
But when his team is of the boil he can do little about it and suffers as a result. Gerrards ability to dribble and run with the ball means he is able to lift the tempo of the game and get his team going. That is the biggest difference between the two and what sets them apart.
you have ur likes of
gerrard
kaka
torres
Ronaldo
Messi
etc
and then u have ur likes of
Lampard
Bullard
Nolan
Parker
i own everton fans on the internet....that's what i do
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Originally posted by PTP View Postexactly - lampard is great when chelsea are playing well, dragging the other team apart and he gets himself in some space and has time to lift his head and pick out passes, or have a pop at goal. He's a good player, but he is nowhere near the top range of world stars
you have ur likes of
gerrard
kaka
torres
Ronaldo
Messi
etc
and then u have ur likes of
Lampard
Bullard
Nolan
Parker

Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 years
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I would stand between the two stools. He is nowhere near good enough as a holding player in the mould of Makelele which is required for Scolaris tactics to work. His positioning is suspect and he doesn't take care of the ball in the way great players of that position do. He is however a nice enough passer and I think played as a more orthodox CM he would do well.Originally posted by ShaggyAlonso View PostI think he's utter turd.
I keep hearing/reading so called deep-thinkers on the game going on about what a talent he is, and how he's slotted seamlessly into Makelele's shoes. I think they do it so they can go "oooh, he does the stuff youR average clueless football fan doesn't notice, ooh my analysis is so insightful..."
Bull****. He's rubbish. The Mancs & Mr Ferguson dodged a bullet there. Could've been Djemba-Djemba mark II."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
-- William Blake
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That sounds like a very unpleasant place to stand.Originally posted by dww View PostI would stand between the two stools..
Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
May the Lord bless this post.
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