San Siro and the Stadium that never was.

[redstaralex]

I was watching the Milan derby last night. An incredible stadium and a huge achievement for one that holds 80,000. It manages to achieve an atmosphere which can so easily be lost when the capacity increases. So many large stadiums lack atmpsohere because the fans become slightly lost and detached due to the hugeness of the stadium and the use of space. The Emirates for example. The San Siro is my favourite stadium. The tiers are so steep and the seats so close that the fans almost envolope the pitch. Its almost as perfect as a football stadium can be.

not been but know a fair few that have (not on derby days) and they all say it's garbage because most of the time it's half empty, any stadium has a great atmosphere when it's full on a derby day but it's the other 16/18 league games where it falls apart

[Chris]

Its great if the fans can be close to pitch but ultimately its the supporters that make an atmosphere, ive been to the Rome derby and Milan derby and the Milan derby doesnt even come close atmosphere wise, Rome is miles ahead and thats with an athletics track around it.

[Rich]

The San Siro has terrible problems with growing grass, the pitch is garbage and forever getting dug up and returfed.

[SB]

The San Siro has terrible problems with growing grass, the pitch is garbage and forever getting dug up and returfed.

Probably because there is a match played on it every week

[fah-q]

Its more to do with the fact the pitch is so enclosed on all four sides with high structures apparently.

[SB]

Its more to do with the fact the pitch is so enclosed on all four sides with high structures apparently.

We've got a stadium in Melbourne and it has had all sorts of problems with the turf and it could well be for the reasons you've mentioned.

I still believe that all football pitches play best when they are not over used

[memzey]

I think it's just as important that the weather has a chance to get to it properly. Once you fill the corners in on a stadium, it makes it much harder to keep a good playing surface.

[dom9]

Its more to do with the fact the pitch is so enclosed on all four sides with high structures apparently.

That's it.

Grass needs sunlight to grow effectively.

[redstaralex]

suspect it's more to do with use, the Millenium stadium in Cardiff is arguably the best I've been to and def the best in the UK and that's got high sides and is enclosed but isn't battered all the time

[Joe King]

Its more to do with the fact the pitch is so enclosed on all four sides with high structures apparently.

Not enough wind and water on the surface. Whilst it was flat on Sunday, it was proper patchwork stuff.

[Crazy-Horse]

Who says the stadium won't be built eventually.

It would be madness to do it in the current financial climate. I think that is one decision the owners did get right, not that they will ever get any credit for it.

If you can get the funding right, NOW is the best time to build a stadium.

Lots of City of Culture development being completed...
Lots of major projects being put on hold...
Building costs being pushed down, because of less demand...

The key is the funding, and Stadler and Waldoff aren't in a position to do it

[dom9]

If you can get the funding right, NOW is the best time to build a stadium.

Lots of City of Culture development being completed...
Lots of major projects being put on hold...
Building costs being pushed down, because of less demand...

The key is the funding, and Stadler and Waldoff aren't in a position to do it

Mate - have you tried taking out a loan or mortgage recently?

Unless you have a perfect credit rating, and at least 25% deposit for a mortgage, you have no chance.

The economy is totally ****ed. People can't get finance, so they can't buy stuff, which means the prices go down (as you have pointed out). That is what has happened to the price of steel, and oil too come to think of it.

Even if you had billions in the bank, the chances are you have less now than you did 6 months ago, so why would you spend it on a football club?

[leftpeg]

That's it.

Grass needs sunlight to grow effectively.

This is where robotic roof mounted mirrors come into play.

[dom9]

This is where robotic roof mounted mirrors come into play.

[Tatterdemalion]

Mate - have you tried taking out a loan or mortgage recently?

Unless you have a perfect credit rating, and at least 25% deposit for a mortgage, you have no chance.

The economy is totally ****ed. People can't get finance, so they can't buy stuff, which means the prices go down (as you have pointed out). That is what has happened to the price of steel, and oil too come to think of it.

Even if you had billions in the bank, the chances are you have less now than you did 6 months ago, so why would you spend it on a football club?

Is right. some people (not the guy you were responding to) are totally clueless. I love the club and if it were mine I would have suspended building just when the yanks did - whether I could get the funding or not. To put it another way - Would you mortgage your future now for a house if you knew that it would halve in cost within two years? Of course not, not unless money was no object. A lot of fans seem to think that because its Liverpool that money isn't a consideration, that all it comes down to is promises and trust. The real world is somewhat different for sure.