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    Originally posted by red g View Post
    vrononin in looks excellent preseason shocker.......would love to dig out some old posts from his last pre-season but definitely deja vu, not going to get too excited but would be nice if he carried his form through to when it matters
    I thought he did last year?

    And to be fair, he started off ok the previous year before he got injured.
    If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?

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      Originally posted by red g View Post
      vrononin in looks excellent preseason shocker.......would love to dig out some old posts from his last pre-season but definitely deja vu, not going to get too excited but would be nice if he carried his form through to when it matters
      Agreed, but my comments were related to the 45 minutes I watched of him. Nowhere did I say he was going to rip teams in the prem a new ar*ehole. I think he can be a useful player - just don't rely on him to put away chances.
      One tit for another.

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        Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
        It's nothing to do with being pragmatic, it's just obvious to realise that opposition such as St Gallen are vastly inferior to PL sides and therefore, one might be bright enough to reserve judgement, or at least not base it on 45 minutes in such a trivial run out.

        If you choose to see it for what you want to see it as, then that's upto you. It explains the 'tower of strength' comment in relation to Voronin, certainly
        Mate, I saw him for 45 minutes and thought he was a tower of strength in that game. Why should I let any prejudice of previous games affect what I thought of him in this? You're weird.
        One tit for another.

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