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    #61
    He'll come good, I still think he'll have a role to play this year.

    I think it's unfair to question his workrate or attitude as I don't think there's a problem there at all. He seems like a decent young man from the little insight we have. To me it's obvious his confidence is shattered and he's putting a lot of pressure on himself before he even gets on the pitch.
    "My commitment to Liverpool is 100 per cent. I would die for that Liverpool shirt. I think the club loves me and I feel the same, no matter what the situation." - Pepe Reina, Nov '09.

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      #62
      I'm as disillusioned as anyone (and have been for a year nearly) with Babel but I don't like people laying into one of our players the way many are him.
      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
      -- William Blake

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        #63
        Babel just doesn't fit in with the personel we have or the playing style, he might do well in other teams. I think he benefited greatly from having Alonso in the team because that meant he got the ball to his feet higher on the pitch. Giving Babel the ball around the halfway line is useless IMO, he needs to get it near the box so he just needs to take one sprint to shoot/cross.

        He has pace and a good shot, so he is not totally lacking.
        * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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          #64
          Originally posted by dww View Post
          I'm as disillusioned as anyone (and have been for a year nearly) with Babel but I don't like people laying into one of our players the way many are him.
          Why? He doesnt even try out there. Why should we support some prick that looks like he can't be arsed?

          Fair enough not laying into a guy that isn't good enough...but is giving his all (Lucas). But Babel has talent, he just doesnt give a ****.
          "When a man insults my country I insult him, by taking his woman" Tony Yeboah

          "looking through your posts since 2007 and what you have consistently written about my football team I have come to the conclusion that if you had 1 more brain cell you would be a plant .. your father was a hamster and your mother smells of elder berries, I fart in your general direction ..." Nicey

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            #65
            Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
            Babel just doesn't fit in with the personel we have or the playing style, he might do well in other teams. I think he benefited greatly from having Alonso in the team because that meant he got the ball to his feet higher on the pitch. Giving Babel the ball around the halfway line is useless IMO, he needs to get it near the box so he just needs to take one sprint to shoot/cross.

            He has pace and a good shot, so he is not totally lacking.
            If he put himself somewhere useful then he would be fine. In the Spurs game there was one time when he came into the middle for a long ball and I thought - he's finally showing some initiative thats promising. However when he is deeper he needs to find room so that he can receive the ball and run at people (much like Yossi did when he came on). It should not be a problem for someone with pace to receive the ball deep as they can progress quickly, however it is not enough to stand somewhere and wait for the ball to come to you.

            In particular with a player like Lucas you have to keep moving as he will less often look to put you through with a risky ball. You also have to be willing to go for the one two. Neither of which Babel looked interested in doing against Spurs. I take the point that a player like Alonso willing to spring him loose with a ball from afar should have suited him better but he was hardly sparkling last season.

            We can play with him higher up the pitch but if he insists on effectively marking himself out of the game I don't see him making much of an impression there either.
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
            -- William Blake

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              #66
              Originally posted by dww View Post
              If he put himself somewhere useful then he would be fine. In the Spurs game there was one time when he came into the middle for a long ball and I thought - he's finally showing some initiative thats promising. However when he is deeper he needs to find room so that he can receive the ball and run at people (much like Yossi did when he came on). It should not be a problem for someone with pace to receive the ball deep as they can progress quickly, however it is not enough to stand somewhere and wait for the ball to come to you.

              In particular with a player like Lucas you have to keep moving as he will less often look to put you through with a risky ball. You also have to be willing to go for the one two. Neither of which Babel looked interested in doing against Spurs. I take the point that a player like Alonso willing to spring him loose with a ball from afar should have suited him better but he was hardly sparkling last season.

              We can play with him higher up the pitch but if he insists on effectively marking himself out of the game I don't see him making much of an impression there either.
              I would like to see how faired with Alonso and without. But I feel his close control is not good enough so the only way for him to do any damage is running onto long passes like Alonso often provided him but he won't beat more than one defender.

              I reckon we should have cut our losses on him since he just doesn't fit in as we usually don't get that much space in the third quarter but Rafa must see something.
              * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                #67
                Originally posted by The_weatherman View Post
                I would like to see how faired with Alonso and without. But I feel his close control is not good enough so the only way for him to do any damage is running onto long passes like Alonso often provided him but he won't beat more than one defender.

                I reckon we should have cut our losses on him since he just doesn't fit in as we usually don't get that much space in the third quarter but Rafa must see something.
                I don't think his control is that bad. I can see where you are coming from though. I do feel though that if he could get his head round how to work in our system he has the physical and technical attributes to be good. It's just that he seems to lack the drive of Kuyt and the intelligence of Benayoun and ends up being a bit pointless.
                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                -- William Blake

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                  #68
                  I think we have the answer

                  Hip-hop for Anfield flop

                  LIVERPOOL forward Ryan Babel can't find the net but hopes to hit the top of the charts after teaming up with UK hip-hop artist Sway.

                  The Dutchman features on one track on Sway's new album The Signature LP 2.

                  "He's a nice guy and a sick rapper", said Sway. "The way he flips his flow is marvellous, man."
                  Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Harv View Post
                    Why? He doesnt even try out there. Why should we support some prick that looks like he can't be arsed?

                    Fair enough not laying into a guy that isn't good enough...but is giving his all (Lucas). But Babel has talent, he just doesnt give a ****.
                    Bollocks.

                    I don't think the 'not try hard' comment is fair about Babel. He's maybe thick (there's a lot of people who are anyway) and is devoid of any footballing intelligence whatsoever but you can't fault him for not trying.

                    It just isn't happening for him and supporting him might be the best way to get him out of this rot.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by fredo View Post
                      Bollocks.

                      I don't think the 'not try hard' comment is fair about Babel. He's maybe thick (there's a lot of people who are anyway) and is devoid of any footballing intelligence whatsoever but you can't fault him for not trying.

                      It just isn't happening for him and supporting him might be the best way to get him out of this rot.
                      He's the laziest player I've ever seen, he doesn't give a toss.

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                        #71
                        Babel's talents?

                        I've heard he's good with a souffle.
                        A humble guy with healthy desire.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by kingfunk View Post
                          Ryan babels talents are as follows:

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                            #73
                            I dont think he doesn't not try, i think it's solely a confidence thing.
                            If he was ripping every full back in the country to shreds, setting up goals and scoring you'd see him on the ball and doing his stuff.
                            It's really sad that it's not working out for him, i just hope he has one of them games when everything goes for him and he's off and running.
                            "Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. Im not the thief who grabs your purse. Im not the guy who jacks your car. Im not down with the people who steal and hurt others. Im just a brother who fight back."
                            Tupac

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                              #74
                              Running down blind alleys.

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                                #75
                                Laughing with Arsenal players after throwing away our title chances, when every other player is looking totally distraught.

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