Champions League Squad

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I'm not so sure either. But I can guarantee Amoo would not have been in ahead of him, nor Eccleston. Both good young prospects I rate, yet both have only just made the step up into the reserves, with Amoo often found on the bench.

Yet when I keep saying it would benefit us to sign English players there are people on here who turn round and disagree, saying we don't need them.

but these are cream of the crop players allegedly. What you are saying is effectively signing english players not as good as there foreign counterparts just for the cl squad?

I dont think anyone would argue that we would all prefer 11 stevie g's rather than 11 stephano gerrardinho's

[Vermilion]

Kelly, Amoo and Ecclestone.

Brilliant for them.

[DannyMan2006]

but these are cream of the crop players allegedly. What you are saying is effectively signing english players not as good as there foreign counterparts just for the cl squad?

I dont think anyone would argue that we would all prefer 11 stevie g's rather than 11 stephano gerrardinho's

Actually they did. And when we sign players as back up I think it has to be considered signing one of slightly lesser quality if it means your squad would be better of overall. As it happens only Degen is missing so on this occasion I would say the balance of our squad is about right.

Last season would be an example of my theory, where a good player in Sami Hyypia initially missed out because we had too many foreign players.

[DannyMan2006]

Brilliant for them.

Only if they play or are involved. Craig Lindfield has been in quite a few squads in past years.

[CincyRed]

One thing that people seem to mistake with the CL squad and homegrown players is that we don't have to have 8 domestic players in the squad. We just can't register any more than 17 foreign players (25 minus 8). If we dont have the domestic players, we just don't fill the spots. On the other hand, we can register an unlimited number of B list players, which would answer the question of 3 RBs. Since those players would qualify and don't take a spot away from another player, might as well register them.

At least that's my understanding.

[DannyMan2006]

One thing that people seem to mistake with the CL squad and homegrown players is that we don't have to have 8 domestic players in the squad. We just can't register any more than 17 foreign players (25 minus 8). If we dont have the domestic players, we just don't fill the spots. On the other hand, we can register an unlimited number of B list players, which would answer the question of 3 RBs. Since those players would qualify and don't take a spot away from another player, might as well register them.

At least that's my understanding.

We have 19 foreign players in that squad list.

[Chris]

Plessis and Insua are on the b list.

[BrianF80]

Am I missing something here? Are 28 players on that list. The main A-list is 25 players isn't it? Of which 8 must count as home grown (trained for the required in England before the age of 21). Assuming there are 3 players on the B-list (probably Eccleston Amoo and Martin?) That leaves us short of 2 homegrown players doesn't it? I read Insua didn't count because he hasn't been here perminently for the required period, Who else could count as homegrown Plessis?

Eccleston, Amoo, Darby, Insua and Plessis are all on the B list.

http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/club=7889/competition=1/index.html

[Exiled_red]

Eccleston, Amoo, Darby, Insua and Plessis are all on the B list.

http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/c...n=1/index.html

Thanks

... Sorry to be a pain, but I'm just wondering how you qualify for the B list? Darby, Insua and Plessis are on it but Spearing, Kelly and Martin aren't

[Parm]

No Degen, El Zhar or Ayala.

1 Diego Cavalieri
25 Pepe Reina
44 David Martin

2 Glen Johnson
5 Daniel Agger
12 Fabio Aurelio
16 Sotiris Kyrgiakos
22 Emiliano Insua Zapata
23 Jamie Carragher
32 Stephen Darby
34 Martin Kelly
37 Martin Skrtel
38 Andrea Dossena

4 Alberto Aquilani
8 Steven Gerrard
15 Yossi Benayoun
20 Javier Mascherano
21 Lucas
26 Jay Spearing
28 Damien Plessis
39 Nathan Eccleston

9 Fernando Torres
10 Andriy Voronin
11 Albert Riera
18 Dirk Kuyt
19 Ryan Babel
24 David N'Gog
46 David Amoo

glad to see some of the kids given a role but the squad doesnt look as experienced as previous years.

[BrianF80]

Thanks

... Sorry to be a pain, but I'm just wondering how you qualify for the B list? Darby, Insua and Plessis are on it but Spearing, Kelly and Martin aren't

I don't know why we designated the players like we did but the regs are here if you want to try and work it out

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/download/regulations/uefa/others/70/22/60/702260_download.pdf

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I don't know why we designated the players like we did but the regs are here if you want to try and work it out

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/download/regulations/uefa/others/70/22/60/702260_download.pdf

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Thanks again

It seems to be to do with date of birth etc, there are no restrictions on numbers of players or number of changes that can be made on the B list, where as there are on the A-list. So you are best adding as many eligable players to the B list as they don't cost places in the squad. I was wondering why we didn't have the English youngsters on the A list as they would qualify as homegrown, but this way we if we sign a player in January who would qualify as homegrown we can add them without using any of our replacement places as there are spaces for them in the squad

[dww]

Thanks

... Sorry to be a pain, but I'm just wondering how you qualify for the B list? Darby, Insua and Plessis are on it but Spearing, Kelly and Martin aren't

Not sure why some players are put on the A and not B list but presumably just to stop whinging about not making the full squad number by leaving out 'home qualified players'. The regulation, from UEFA, found here:

17.16 A player may be registered on List B if he is born on or after 1 January 1987
and has been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted
period of two years since his 15th birthday by the time he is registered with
UEFA. Players aged 16 may be registered on List B if they have been
registered with the participating club for the previous two years without
interruption.

[BrianF80]

Thanks again

It seems to be to do with date of birth etc, there are no restrictions on numbers of players or number of changes that can be made on the B list, where as there are on the A-list. So you are best adding as many eligable players to the B list as they don't cost places in the squad. I was wondering why we didn't have the English youngsters on the A list as they would qualify as homegrown, but this way we if we sign a player in January who would qualify as homegrown we can add them without using any of our replacement places as there are spaces for them in the squad

Yeah that was the bit I couldn't work out either!

I like your sneaky plan though, now if we had a transfer fund it'd be perfect!

[Bender]

Goalkeepers

Diego Cavalieri, Pepe Reina, David Martin.

Defenders

Glen Johnson, Daniel Agger, Fabio Aurelio, Sotirios Kyrgiakos, Emiliano Insua, Jamie Carragher, Stephen Darby, Martin Kelly, Martin Skrtel, Andrea Dossena.

Midfielders

Alberto Aquilani, Steven Gerrard, Yossi Benayoun, Javier Mascherano, Lucas Leiva, Jay Spearing, Damien Plessis.

Forwards

Fernando Torres, Andriy Voronin, Albert Riera, Dirk Kuyt, Ryan Babel, David Ngog, David Amoo, Nathan Eccleston.