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    #91
    Originally posted by CincyRed View Post
    After looking it up, I was mistaken to say that it was a large amount we were in the black for the most recent window. By the numbers at http://www.lfchistory.net/seasontran...?Season_id=119 we were up by 750k.
    36.75 - 36.6 = .15 (150k).

    Originally posted by CincyRed View Post
    However, I don't understand your point about the Keane sale. First, I didnt say last two seasons, I said last two windows. So that is only Summer 09 and Jan 09. Regardless of whether Keane fit in the squad, he and Reira were the only purchases of that summer (I'm not counting Dossena bc he cant even get a game with Aurelio out
    Well, as I say, I think it's stilted to only take the Jan window without including the summer window in consideration, part of the same season, same budget, they come as a pair. So I refuse to discuss based on the Jan window in isolation

    As for not counting Dossena, well, does this mean we didn't have to stump up the cash? Otherwise he counts like it or not.


    Originally posted by CincyRed View Post
    Or should we just assume its your way since the whole point of your post seems to have been to pick mine apart and not contribute anything to the discussion.
    Just playing devils advocate. I know many round here think anyone defending the yanks is contributing nothing but personally I think fair and even consideration is important.

    Originally posted by CincyRed View Post
    The strange thing to me is that I was just making those points as counter points to an overall thrust of my post that was, perhaps the Americans havent and wont be that bad. A position that from your post, it seems you may agree with.
    I dunno, I have very mixed feelings on the yanks. We do seem to be improving as a team, and as a corporation.

    Perversely all these yanks out posts make me feel less animosity towards them because they're all filled with so much one sided rubbish as someone who like to play devils advocate I find myself agreeing with the they're not too bad side.

    They have lied and placed debt on us. And they didn't get the stadium built. Both of which are hard to forgive (especially the former).

    But I think overall we're in a good place right now, and better than when they joined
    Last edited by EwarWoo; 13-09-09, 06:48 AM.

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      #92
      I make no apologies, this is me

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        #93
        Originally posted by EwarWoo View Post
        Other than the fact that we've spent more than the other of the "top 4" clubs which heavily suggests it's not solely their issue. But never mind logic hey
        You sir to put it bluntly are quite the fool for falling for the oldest trick in the book, no offence intended towards you as it is a very clever ploy that will continue to trick many others in many other situations.

        When Tom Hicks took over the Texas Rangers his first move was to spend record sums of money on Alex Rodriguez. I have no idea about baseball but from what I have read he was quite the star player and you can imagine the delight Rangers fans had when this signing was announced. Of course Hicks was onside with the fans from the off. However, as seasons rolled on it became very clear and apparent that rather than this signing ushering in a new era for the Rangers it was the complete opposite. There were no more superstar signings and the success for the Rangers never came.

        Rafa Benitez has been backed in the past. But don't expect this to happen again. Like the Rangers fans, you will eventually see through this rather expensive parlour trick and see the Yanks for what they really are.

        This summer was the exact right time to back the manager. We had a strong squad and needed just a couple of top additions to be most peoples favourites for the title. Instead the Yanks chose to ignore this and hee hawed their way through the summer.

        My question to you and them is if you won't back the manager in the ideal time, will you ever do so again? If your answer is yes then you are seriously deluded. If your answer is no then why the hell would you want them in charge of our club?
        Forwards.......

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          #94
          fantastic that we are getting a sponsor thats paying proper money!!

          I hate big banks though, so a bit of a kick in the groin!

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            #95
            Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
            You sir to put it bluntly are quite the fool for falling for the oldest trick in the book, no offence intended towards you as it is a very clever ploy that will continue to trick many others in many other situations.
            You sir are a fool for judging my opinions based on assumptions. I have stated many of the reasons why I don't think they're that bad and Torres was only 1 of them. But using lies and twisted half truths as part of the yanks out agenda is one of the reasons I'm starting to appreciated 'em

            Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
            My question to you and them is if you won't back the manager in the ideal time, will you ever do so again? If your answer is yes then you are seriously deluded. If your answer is no then why the hell would you want them in charge of our club?
            It's hardly an ideal time when the PL finances are so ****ed that none of the 4 traditionally richest teams spent up.

            If you think we didn't spend up purely due to H&G then this anti yank agenda is starting to make you seriously deluded.
            Last edited by EwarWoo; 14-09-09, 12:24 AM.

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              #96
              Confirmed by the Offal.

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                #97
                They were liars but it seems we're slowly but surely building a very very strong team which will compete with Man. Utd on a commercial level. This £80m deal is no mean feat. Parry never managed to do that much in the 17 years or so he was at the helm.

                The Americans may be cunts and foul mouthed individuals, but I'm pretty much optimistic about the future.

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                  #98




                  Liverpool FC and Standard Chartered Bank announced today they had agreed a four year deal for the bank to become the club's main sponsor - the largest commercial agreement in Liverpool's history.

                  The agreement, which starts in July 2010 and runs through to the end of the 2013-14 season, will see the bank's name and logo appear on the Liverpool shirt.

                  Liverpool FC is the most successful club in English football, enjoying a global following most recently evidenced in its highly successful pre-season tour of Singapore and Thailand. As official club sponsors, Standard Chartered will enjoy a major rights package which will provide the platform to significantly step up the Bank's brand awareness across its core markets in Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

                  Standard Chartered PLC, listed on both London and Hong Kong stock exchanges, ranks among the top 25 companies in the FTSE-100 by market capitalisation. The Bank has more than doubled its revenue and profits over the last five years and has performed consistently well, delivering record results throughout the recent financial crisis.

                  Christian Purslow, Managing Director of Liverpool Football Club, pictured above signing the contract alongside Standard Chartered chairman John Peace, commented: "This partnership brings together two highly successful organisations with a really strong cultural and strategic fit. The sponsorship opportunity attracted a huge level of interest from a wide array of globally recognised brands and in Standard Chartered we believe we have the ideal partner to move forward and help develop our global ambitions for the club. It is a real sign of the progress we have made at Liverpool that we have been able to secure the largest ever commercial deal in our history."

                  Peter Sands, Group Chief Executive of Standard Chartered PLC, said: "This is a great partnership. We are excited to be working with such a famous global brand as Liverpool Football Club for the next four years. This is an outstanding opportunity for Standard Chartered, our customers and shareholders, and for Liverpool, its players and fans

                  "We see many opportunities to continue growing our business, particularly as Asia, Africa and the Middle East are emerging from the global downturn more quickly than the West. This sponsorship will drive a step change in brand recognition in our key markets and will provide an additional catalyst for our business growth."
                  Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’

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                    #99
                    This could be a big step indeed. The future's bright, the future's Red!

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                      Originally posted by johnly View Post
                      This could be a big step indeed. The future's bright, the future's Red!
                      May I add ... 'The future's american.'

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                        Originally posted by fredo View Post
                        May I add ... 'The future's american.'
                        We'll be (possibly not) spending that Dollar Dollar bill y'all. Tom and George need to hand Rafa and wad of dead presidents!

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                          Originally posted by EwarWoo View Post
                          You sir are a fool for judging my opinions based on assumptions. I have stated many of the reasons why I don't think they're that bad and Torres was only 1 of them. But using lies and twisted half truths as part of the yanks out agenda is one of the reasons I'm starting to appreciated 'em


                          It's hardly an ideal time when the PL finances are so ****ed that none of the 4 traditionally richest teams spent up.

                          If you think we didn't spend up purely due to H&G then this anti yank agenda is starting to make you seriously deluded.
                          It's not all black and white and there are a lot of grey areas. But I have weighed up both arguments and the Yanks come up short.
                          Forwards.......

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                            Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                            It's not all black and white and there are a lot of grey areas. But I have weighed up both arguments and the Yanks come up short.
                            They've come up short up till now and they haven't been aided by the global economic downturn neither. Problem is, they talk too much (that's what Americans usually do) and they were guilty of snoogy doogying us at the beginning.

                            But, we've consistently progressed under Rafa (and under their backing - albeit limited) along those 3 years and we've steadily made huge progress on the commercial of things, with this deal being the apex of the groundwork they've started.

                            The stadium has been a flop, but I can understand why they won't be building one at this moment in time.

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                              Originally posted by fredo View Post
                              They've come up short up till now and they haven't been aided by the global economic downturn neither. Problem is, they talk too much (that's what Americans usually do) and they were guilty of snoogy doogying us at the beginning.

                              But, we've consistently progressed under Rafa (and under their backing - albeit limited) along those 3 years and we've steadily made huge progress on the commercial of things, with this deal being the apex of the groundwork they've started.

                              The stadium has been a flop, but I can understand why they won't be building one at this moment in time.
                              I have no problems with the delay in the stadium plans, nor do I have real major issues with the lack of transfer funds. The club do not have the revenue streams at present to warrant such spending sprees.

                              My only issue with the Yanks is that they put debt on the club, when they said they would not do this. All the rest can be put down to the financial market downturn.
                              Forwards.......

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                                Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
                                I have no problems with the delay in the stadium plans, nor do I have real major issues with the lack of transfer funds. The club do not have the revenue streams at present to warrant such spending sprees.

                                My only issue with the Yanks is that they put debt on the club, when they said they would not do this. All the rest can be put down to the financial market downturn.
                                Arsenal, Chelsea, Man Utd, Man. City have all got debts.

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