Liverpool owners cap transfer spending at £20m-a-season for next five years

[Reece]

Oh, so the papers don't realise that bad "news" sells...and what about all the claims that the London papers have a vendetta against us...oh no, if it's a bad story that fits in with the Liverpool-Is-Screwed fan mindset, we'll happily believe it.

You believe what you want, but the reality is the yanks aren't going anywhere, so i will look on the brightside, otherwsie i'll end up a gibbering wreck posting vitriol on an internet forum, spitting my dummy out and getting all upset at people who dare to have a different viewpoint from me.

HAHAHA You think Tony Barrett, Oli Kay and co both huge Liverpool supporters sit at home every day thinking of fake Liverpool stories to make up?

For someone who preaches about the "real world" maybe you could join us sometime. People like you make me sick, and are the exact reason we get their media releases about how rosey things are, you are gullible.

And it doesnt need any media article to say how bad things are, the FACTS are all available for everyone.

Give it a rest guys. We're not having yet another thread of bitching and name calling.

[Norbs]

Two

4 if you include the Pompey fella and QPR owners

[The_weatherman]

Second paragraph is correct, but it's not their fault and could be construed as them wanting to buy us even more. Perhaps the ones that should shoulder the blame are those that accepted a bid from such a highly leveraged buyer.

What about the first one? What is wrong about that? I think that we can't compete with a 20m. budget that includes all contract renewals, for example I think that Mascher didn't get his contract in the summer because of that. And I think that since every summer we have renewals we need to sell a big name to fund other buys.

I'm not going to shout at you or Scratch but can you honestly say we are going to compete with a budget like last summer for the next five years?

The bit in bold I'd like an answer to if at all possible.

[Scratch]

HAHAHA You think Tony Barrett, Oli Kay and co both huge Liverpool supporters sit at home every day thinking of fake Liverpool stories to make up?

For someone who preaches about the "real world" maybe you could join us sometime. People like you make me sick, and are the exact reason we get their media releases about how rosey things are, you are gullible.

And it doesnt need any media article to say how bad things are, the FACTS are all available for everyone.

Oh, cos Barrett and Kay wrote it, that makes it true...get a grip boy, they are only reporting on what they've been told, and who knows what is true and who isn't...but because it's bad, it must be true, otherwise the whole fabric of reality will come crumbling down.

It's nice that people like me can make you sick, you must lead a shallow, sheltered life.

Oh, give me some of the FACTS by the way, the ones that make our clubs postition so unstable? Facts mind you, not tabloid speculation, or internet rumour, or SOS bollocks.

[Chris]

and who knows what is true and who isn't.

Anyone with the slightest ounce of common sense. Zero net spend, broken promises, how much more obvious does it have to be before you take any notice? But the reality is you dont give a **** because if we fall apart you'll be off supporting someone else.

[Tee]

Chris, your posts completely and utterly reflect the frustration I and many other fans share, not just with the owners but also with fellow Reds who have bought into the bs.

[The Birdman]

So just to clarify 20m nett each season means for example we sign someone for £10, then pay them £2m a year for a 5 year contract.
Does that use all our £20 mill or does it depend on how much we paid upfront plus the £2 mill for this fictional players 1st year salary??

[Scratch]

What about the first one? What is wrong about that? I think that we can't compete with a 20m. budget that includes all contract renewals, for example I think that Mascher didn't get his contract in the summer because of that. And I think that since every summer we have renewals we need to sell a big name to fund other buys.

I'm not going to shout at you or Scratch but can you honestly say we are going to compete with a budget like last summer for the next five years?

The bit in bold I'd like an answer to if at all possible.

The 20million was based on a revenue of 14.6million from Carlsberg, so by getting and increase to £20million from SC, that's and increase straight away. Lets not forget that report is from March 2009, before the refinancing, the reduction of debt by £60million and the new sponsership deals etc, so it is completely feasible to expect that circumstances may change.

[Scratch]

Anyone with the slightest ounce of common sense. Zero net spend, broken promises, how much more obvious does it have to be before you take any notice? But the reality is you dont give a **** because if we fall apart you'll be off supporting someone else.

Oh, sorry, i forgot you were a better fan than me cos you're an unreasonable, over-reactive supporter. I bow to your greater fanship.

[Rich]

Has anyone thought what the alternative would be if the Yanks hadn't have bought us?

Still bumbling around with ****e marketing, still bumbling around with Parry in charge of delaying transfers, still bumbling around with a Chairman willing to die for the club but with little or no commercial acumen.

Do people really want a billionaire to come in and throw money around like its no tomorrow, because that's what its sounding like to me.

[dom9]

4 if you include the Pompey fella and QPR owners

5 if you include a certain Mr Morgan at Wolves.

[dom9]

Has anyone thought what the alternative would be if the Yanks hadn't have bought us?

Still bumbling around with ****e marketing, still bumbling around with Parry in charge of delaying transfers, still bumbling around with a Chairman willing to die for the club but with little or no commercial acumen.

Do people really want a billionaire to come in and throw money around like its no tomorrow, because that's what its sounding like to me.

[cream]

Second paragraph is correct, but it's not their fault and could be construed as them wanting to buy us even more. Perhaps the ones that should shoulder the blame are those that accepted a bid from such a highly leveraged buyer.

So Moores is a cunt for selling to us to the two robbing *******s but the robbing *******s or ok, even though they are robbing *******s and screwing us over

[Chris]

Has anyone thought what the alternative would be if the Yanks hadn't have bought us?

Still bumbling around with ****e marketing, still bumbling around with Parry in charge of delaying transfers, still bumbling around with a Chairman willing to die for the club but with little or no commercial acumen.

Do people really want a billionaire to come in and throw money around like its no tomorrow, because that's what its sounding like to me.

Thats completely irrelevant. These dont get points just because they're not David Moores, all of them are rotten as owners.

And whats the amazing improvement now? Our great marketing that goes straight on to paying off their debts? Wow, cheers G and H, the stuff of legends right there.

I dont want an Abramovich, just what we were promised and sold for but that will never happen because we've been had.

[barnes10]

i dont see how this enforce capping of transfer/squad spend was going to be avoided.

if we were building the stadium now, we'd be in exactly the situation arsenal are in - limiting spending to pay down debts we already have.

now we're preparing our finances to be in a position to borrow to build the stadium once finance is available. i.e. limiting spending now to have finances healthy enough to borrow once the markets ease up.

both paths require careful management of the key costs and essentially lead to the same state in say 10-15 years: a new stadium and manageable debts. borrow more, now at higher rates but get more income from a stadium now or, borrow at lower rates and therefore a cheaper stadium but defer the extra income. the stadium decision is spot on. the transfer limits are part of that decision unfortunately. its not like we're miles away either. 100 mill net over 5 years is what rafa had in his first 5 years. Add on a bit for both improved commercial income and the fact that outgoing players will earn more (compared to the sh1te he inherited) and we'll be fine.

and no i dont love / like or employed by the yanks. They are a pair of lying, cheating, moneyhungry, businessmen cunts but any rational fan will see that what they are doing is for the long term good of the club which is afterall an investment they dont want to see fail.