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    #31
    Whatever system you employ if the players don't do their jobs effectively you will concede goals and that's our problem at defending set pieces
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      #32
      A general lack of confidence and belief amongst each other. Once that is restored, which is a couple of a clean sheets consecutively, we could see th same ruthless defending.

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        #33
        Originally posted by vonk View Post

        Marky, your dislike for Insua as a player is funny sometimes.

        I'd love to know your thoughts on Dirk....
        Atm i'm not liking Dirk too much either tbh in saying that i still back him to get us a goal or produce something but he doesn't have the same sharpness in his game as he did this time last year and that's worrying.
        He maybe needs a knock in a few goals/assist to get going.
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          #34
          Our defensive problems are due to Benitez and his super zonal marking. Nothing else.
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            #35
            Originally posted by ValueFinder View Post
            Our defensive problems are due to Benitez and his super zonal marking. Nothing else.
            So the players, operating the system has nothing to do with it? The system worked well in previous years. If the players don't do their jobs well, man marking or zonal marking systems don't matter, you will concede goals either way
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              #36
              The players can't operate the system. That's my point. And stubborn Benitez won't accept this.

              It's not a system designed for the PL anyway. It works in Spain because there isn't too much aerial threat.

              Check the stats. Over half the goals LFC have shipped this season have been from set pieces. Disgraceful.

              More goals than any premiership team and when you take into account they don't give away as many corners or as most.....
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                #37
                Originally posted by ValueFinder View Post
                The players can't operate the system. That's my point. And stubborn Benitez won't accept this.

                It's not a system designed for the PL anyway. It works in Spain because there isn't too much aerial threat.

                Check the stats. Over half the goals LFC have shipped this season have been from set pieces. Disgraceful.

                More goals than any premiership team and when you take into account they don't give away as many corners or as most.....
                So all the other season when we have had the best or one of the best set piece defences don't count then?
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                  #38
                  We've never had one of the best ratios at defending set pieces.
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ValueFinder View Post
                    We've never had one of the best ratios at defending set pieces.
                    We watch our own games, and are more critical of our own performances. Our goal difference last season was better than every other team.

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                      #40
                      You can't conceed goals from corners if you don't give them away.
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by greenbloodred View Post
                        Zonal defending is also being seriously exposed from set-pieces.
                        With the predictability of zonal defending its not long before teams can exploit it as we are seeing more and more this season.

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                          #42
                          I still canot believe that guy had a free header yesterday for the goal. Nothing to do with zonal marking was just ****e defending.

                          Just because the system is zonal doesnt mean you can't be aware of the opposing players in your zone. Zonal marking done correctly eliminates all danger. Skrtel should have read the flight of the corner, taken a nice run-up from the goal line and headed it from here to Wisconsin. He was half asleep and Reina knew it.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Maxiedge View Post
                            I still canot believe that guy had a free header yesterday for the goal. Nothing to do with zonal marking was just ****e defending.

                            Just because the system is zonal doesnt mean you can't be aware of the opposing players in your zone. Zonal marking done correctly eliminates all danger. Skrtel should have read the flight of the corner, taken a nice run-up from the goal line and headed it from here to Wisconsin. He was half asleep and Reina knew it.
                            the one in the blue shirt???!!?!
                            dave of mutilation

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                              #44
                              yeah... his name escapes me

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                                #45
                                anyone who says that zonal marking is the reason for us conceding goals is with the greatest respect speaking out of their arse.

                                We are not the only team who play zonal in the PL. and rafa is not the first manager of lfc to use zonal marking either.

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