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    Originally posted by pondus View Post
    I thought this was quite a good read:

    It’s a good idea I didn’t choose to write this immediately after our horrible loss to Portsmouth at the weekend, as it has taken me a couple of days to calm down enough to actually view the situation with some calm and rationality.

    Generally though, this was a shocker. And I’m starting to wonder if I could feel any worse than I have done already this season in regards to our club – I previously thought I’d hit rock-bottom after the Arsenal game. It does still amuse me how people will point the finger at one or two factors though – such as Dossena’s start, or the omission of Aquilani. Would the same people argue that the team that started was not good enough to beat bottom-placed Pompey? I’m not looking to absolve Rafa of blame totally here either, rather just suggesting that if you are going to point the finger, it should be in the right direction.

    Our problem is clearly confidence and this is running through the team like a virus at the moment. You could more accurately, therefore, point the finger at Rafa for not being able to motivate the players into performing how they should. The traditional ‘British’ form of motivation, that being back-slapping, war-cries and a penchant for broken teacups, is certainly not the Benitez way. It certainly seems as though we need this at the moment – a good, old-fashioned ‘kick up the arse’ to get the blood boiling again. You could postulate though, as with so many other teams that employ a less extroverted man-in-charge, that the coach’s assistant often adopts the role of flinging things around when necessary. Sammy Lee is more than capable of kicking off and his passion for the club is without question, so really we should have this area ‘covered’ through the backroom team Rafa has assembled.

    After all, Benitez isn’t being employed as a kindergarten teacher given the responsibility of leading a bunch of pre-pubescent, hyperactive toddlers across a road. Our team is laden with professional sportsmen, who have a wealth of experience at all levels of the game. They should be fighting for personal pride, professional integrity, international recognition and the millions of fans across the world and in the stadium singing their name. And, damnit, for their pay cheques. They are being very handsomely rewarded to live out most people’s ‘dream’ career for a relatively short time. Should the burden of blame not be placed at least equally on them?

    Now, I’m not suggesting that we should haul our players in front of the stocks (though a good slap around the chops surely wouldn’t hurt), I am merely trying to suggest that it seems strange our team is getting little or no blame for our current plight. This is, unless, you subscribe to the theory that Rafa has ‘shattered’ the confidence of our players, the poor darlings. Come on. In the case of some younger players with limited experience looking for guidance, this factor ‘could’ undoubtedly have an effect on their progression. But if people with the experience of Gerrard, Carragher, Kuyt, Benayoun, Mascherano can’t step up to the plate as guiding lights in times of crisis on the pitch then I think we should all reanalyse the reasons why we hold top-level sportsmen in such high regard.

    Don’t forget that this team (barring Xabi and Hyypia) were so close to the title last season, so they have it in them (as we all know) to play a hell of a lot better than they are now. Rediscovering this sort of form is the only thing holding us back, but if you truly believe that playing Aurelio (or Riera) on the left of midfield against Pompey would have entirely transformed our mentality on the pitch, you are living in delusion.

    People scream ‘RAFA OUT’, while being blind to the repercussions of losing our manager. The best-case scenario in this worst-case situation, as I see it, would be to put King Kenny in charge, if he were willing to do it. Otherwise we’d have to try and convince another manager of equal or better experience, reputation and quality to a club that has been riddled with problems from the boardroom level down since the American owners took charge (not to mention the massive debt we’d incur for buying out Rafa’s contract). How many managers do you honestly believe would fit this criteria and be willing to make the move? Do you think many of them would have been able to cope much better with the issues we have faced this season?

    Again, this is a cry for rational response and realism. Don’t just scream ‘RAFA OUT’, consider the consequences. Don’t just believe media-hype targeting our manager, consider how much he is solely to blame.

    Those who argue that Rafa has spent money badly should consider the percentage success-rate of similar rivals before claiming that he has ‘wasted’ too much. Chelsea, Man.City and Manchester United can comfortably drop £30-40m on players that don’t perform to their worth without it affecting their squad to the detriment of their season (even Spurs can afford a bench that comfortably runs into tens of millions).

    Perhaps we need to readjust our sights to the current situation we find ourselves in, and I’m talking primarily financially. As some commentors have suggested recently, we can’t just expect to win things because We Are Liverpool.

    Benitez stated at the end of last season that we’d need to be ‘almost perfect’ this season in order to claim the title. It couldn’t have really gone much worse so far, and it seems as if our manager is under no illusions as to the nature of the task ahead.

    This brings me to the aftermath to the Pompey game. There has been plenty of talk of Benitez’s ‘petulant’ responses to questions post-match. I’m not enjoying seeing this new sarcastic side of him, I have to say. But I get the impression from his body language and demeanour that Rafa is finally getting a little bit sick and tired of the repeated abuse he is getting from ex-players and the media. Picture the perennial group of school-yard bullies that attempt to wind up another kid by repeatedly clipping their ear, only to laugh and taunt the patient child when they finally react. If Benitez is not permitted to ‘lash-out’ every now and then at this current point in time, with the pressure he is under, he is either totally apathetic about his job and our club or barely human.

    There is no doubt that we are going through some dark times. We have a mouth-watering first-eleven, yet haven’t had chance to show it for its full worth. Benitez will undoubtedly make it through this season (and if he doesn’t, I ask the detractors how confident they would be of H+G picking a capable alternative) and if we haven’t shown a massive improvement by May I will personally be willing to accept ‘I told you so’ from the doubters.

    Until then, I refuse to condemn a manager we surely all held in high regard at the end of the last season (and if you didn’t, you need a reality-check) to the scrap-heap based on one half of a term that has been fraught with this many problems. In the meantime, I can but hope for patience and realism from some of the rest of the fan-base as well.


    http://www.thisisanfield.com/2009/12...s-poor-season/


    I think getting rid of Rafa would cause a lot more problems that it would solve. I know I once called for his head on here, but that was just after a bad result and I was pissed.. I believe Rafa and the players can turn this around and we can play in the Champions League in 2010-2011.
    Realism for a change.

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      Thanks for posting that pondus
      Good read and agree with it.

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        Far too positive that post. Made me wince a bit. Mouth watering first 11? I mean seriously.

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          tough situation

          i havnt posted for a long time here,
          last time i did i was roasted fopr saying sissoko was a completely average player,
          subsequently he was offloaded,
          at the time the rose coloured spectacle brigade were saying i was a pr**k and he was the new vieara .
          now i have watched liverpool for over 30 years,
          i met shankly on numerous occaisions when i used to hang
          around melwood after autographs.
          the present position of the club speaks for itself,
          we are a mid table team, with very little goal threat, a defensive minded midfield, and a poor defence.
          i dont want to get into the sack rafa position but, who else is to blame ?
          there is no way in a month of sundays tha shankly would send out a team at anfield with 8 (including reina) defensive minded players, never .
          as an opposing manager it is very easy to play at anfield now, double up on gerrad , torres, and benny, and basically the odds are you will not concede,
          snatch a goal and off ya go.
          its not a fortress .
          i dont know what the solution is but if the spirit of shankly is to be remembered, we used to let other teams worry about us,
          does anyone here look at our current team and see goals and exciting football in it ?
          just some ramblings from and old fan,
          happy xmash:

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            Originally posted by lickedlollipop View Post
            what about rijkaard as a manager?
            I personally think he falls into the category of a manager who would require a setup around him in terms of coaches etc that he could manage to really thrive. His biggest assets seem to be his willingness to play attacking football and his managing of big egos. On the negative side when his coaching staff changed he had real trouble at Barcelona with an exceptional squad. There is nothing wrong with that style of manager but they do need to have loyal lieutenants (see Martin O'Neill for example) and Rijkaard doesn't seem to.

            I still think Rafa is the answer. If he goes though we may have to look at a risk in the managerial role but giving Dalglish some sort of oversight role (director of football or similar).
            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
            -- William Blake

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              Originally posted by dww View Post

              I still think Rafa is the answer. If he goes though we may have to look at a risk in the managerial role but giving Dalglish some sort of oversight role (director of football or similar).
              if rafa is to stay i reckon giving dalglish a more prominent role has got to be the way forward. it's no shame to have help from a director of football of sorts and it would defo take some of the pressure off rafa and no doubt give the players, fans and club in a whole a massive lift.
              People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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                I disagree with that. One person is in charge, if you start creating doubt about who's in charge things will only get worse.
                "that is my opinion and that is more important than what anyone else has to say about it" - Mr A.Fergusson, Oct 2011

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                  Make Pelligrino manager. I love the bones of the man. When I see him pointing at the clipboard I tremble at the knees. What a guy. Long live Pelligrino.
                  Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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                    Make keegan manager, attack, attack, attack
                    _____________________________________

                    Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

                    Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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                      Originally posted by the rev leeroy brown View Post
                      if rafa is to stay i reckon giving dalglish a more prominent role has got to be the way forward. it's no shame to have help from a director of football of sorts and it would defo take some of the pressure off rafa and no doubt give the players, fans and club in a whole a massive lift.
                      Originally posted by BillobShaisley View Post
                      I disagree with that. One person is in charge, if you start creating doubt about who's in charge things will only get worse.
                      I can see that argument. However it would be quite possible for Rafa to ask Dalglish to focus on the youth/development teams more in order to allow him to focus solely on turning the first teams form around. Obviously the situation could be fluid.

                      In general I think that a well organised DoF/manager pairing can work but imposing it on a manager who is already in place is a bad idea.
                      "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                      -- William Blake

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                        Originally posted by BobTheCharmer View Post
                        Make Pelligrino manager. I love the bones of the man. When I see him pointing at the clipboard I tremble at the knees. What a guy. Long live Pelligrino.


                        Only if he grew his 80's style wham mullet back.

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                          Originally posted by dww View Post
                          I can see that argument. However it would be quite possible for Rafa to ask Dalglish to focus on the youth/development teams more in order to allow him to focus solely on turning the first teams form around. Obviously the situation could be fluid.

                          In general I think that a well organised DoF/manager pairing can work but imposing it on a manager who is already in place is a bad idea.
                          it worked wonders for redknapp at pompoey when they brough in avram grant though. it allows a manager to look after matters on the pitch only....as it should be. rafa has taken too much on and if dalglish were to take a director of football role and work in tandem with rafa then it would benefit the club no end. rafa could still make signings and coach the team but the king do pretty much take care of the rst.
                          People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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                            Originally posted by the rev leeroy brown View Post
                            it worked wonders for redknapp at pompoey when they brough in avram grant though. it allows a manager to look after matters on the pitch only....as it should be. rafa has taken too much on and if dalglish were to take a director of football role and work in tandem with rafa then it would benefit the club no end. rafa could still make signings and coach the team but the king do pretty much take care of the rst.
                            The thing is that shortly after that Redknapp left and refused to work under a DoF at Spurs. It can work short term but the consequence is highly likely to be that the manager goes. If Rafa wants to delegate then I think he might well benefit but the directive has to come from him for me.

                            Obviously though I am a fan of Rafa so would expect other people to take a different view on that.
                            "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                            -- William Blake

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                              Originally posted by dww View Post
                              The thing is that shortly after that Redknapp left and refused to work under a DoF at Spurs. It can work short term but the consequence is highly likely to be that the manager goes. If Rafa wants to delegate then I think he might well benefit but the directive has to come from him for me.

                              Obviously though I am a fan of Rafa so would expect other people to take a different view on that.
                              i was a rafa fan but this year has me questioning whether the time has come to move him on. saying that, i am behind him while he is manager and beleive that a DOF, especially king kenny, would help ouir fortunes. rafa should maintain footballing matters 100% for the 1st team but everything else should be passed on........yet rafa should be allowed ann input.
                              People who think there's no good way to die have obviously never heard the phrase 'Drug-fuelled-sex-heart-attack'.

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                                Originally posted by fah-q View Post


                                Only if he grew his 80's style wham mullet back.
                                indeed. if only he could sing like an angel. if only he was caught ****ing babel in the gents restroom.
                                Always borrow money from a pessimist. He won’t expect it back. Oscar Wilde

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