Aquilani

[Guest]

It's utterly impossible arguing with you because you are incapable of staying on topic. Your mind is like a car crash.

How is this not on topic?

[Pablo]

How is this not on topic?

Never mind, I made my point very clearly. No need to go over this all again.

You contradicted yourself and made ridiculous claims, whilst all the time blindly refusing to admit that Rafa and his staff could possibly have dealt with things differently.

Different username, but times never change it seems.

[dww]

You dont seem to be able it understand it either. At 2-0 that game was completely dead, yet he still never came on, even with Gerrard clearly flagging. What more opportunity did we need to bring him on?

I'm not advocating bringing him on in tense tight matches, but there have been several instances in the last few weeks where he could have came on and didnt, we all know that, I don't understand why you are all denying it? Im a huge rafa fan so I'm not outright slating him, but he's been overcautious here.

I bet there is not one person on this site who could honestly say they haven't been frustrated and a touch miffed at how little he has played so far? Not even Pete Best!

It is frustrating but there are quite reasonable explanations possibly for why not. If he isn't going to make any effect on the game against Everton while it might be nice to give him a run out it is balanced by the chances of injury in a game which was fragmented and physical. I'm not sure whether we are in a position to know if Rafa is being over cautious. I have no idea what the parameters of what is sensible for Aquilani to do right now are. If we continue wrapping him in cotton wool though then I agree that either the initial medical advice, the decision to buy him or Rafa's handling of him will have to be questioned.

The Debrecen game was odd only in the fact he did get on the pitch even if only for a very short period of time. I'm not sure there is much reason for ever doing that but managers seem to do it all the time.

[Guest]

Never mind, I made my point very clearly. No need to go over this all again.

You contradicted yourself and made ridiculous claims, whilst all the time blindly refusing to admit that Rafa and his staff could possibly have dealt with things differently.

Different username, but times never change it seems.

How did I contradict myself? I've been consistent all along in saying that the well being of the team is more important that Aquilani's fitness or whoever else.

Don't you think that Rafa isn't trying to improve his fitness behind closed doors by giving him practice matches, a fitness regime etc ? It seems it's all too easy criticising the manager from afar, especially from one's armchair.

A different username doesn't change an individual anyway so your comment is utterly ridiculous and I don't see where this can be on topic.

[cream]

You dont seem to be able it understand it either. At 2-0 that game was completely dead, yet he still never came on, even with Gerrard clearly flagging. What more opportunity did we need to bring him on?

I'm not advocating bringing him on in tense tight matches, but there have been several instances in the last few weeks where he could have came on and didnt, we all know that, I don't understand why you are all denying it? Im a huge rafa fan so I'm not outright slating him, but he's been overcautious here.

I bet there is not one person on this site who could honestly say they haven't been frustrated and a touch miffed at how little he has played so far? Not even Pete Best!

Like?

[Scratch]

You dont seem to be able it understand it either. At 2-0 that game was completely dead, yet he still never came on, even with Gerrard clearly flagging. What more opportunity did we need to bring him on?

I'm not advocating bringing him on in tense tight matches, but there have been several instances in the last few weeks where he could have came on and didnt, we all know that, I don't understand why you are all denying it? Im a huge rafa fan so I'm not outright slating him, but he's been overcautious here.

I bet there is not one person on this site who could honestly say they haven't been frustrated and a touch miffed at how little he has played so far? Not even Pete Best!

Several instances?? The Everton match is one, but even then i can understanf leaving him out, cos with a Derby match you never know what's going to happen with regards to tempers flaring...and with out penchant for conceding late, perhaps sticking with the same central spine was the best policy.

What other instances have there been? Debrecen? Nope. City? Not really. Possibly Brum...can't remember if he came on or not for that one?

[Pablo]

Thats all you've got a bit of semantics on the use of the word "several" instead of "a few"? Anyway let's have a proper look:

Birmingham - brought on after 82 minutes, when we were struggling for creativity chasing a winner. Caused Birmingham problems when he came on for the limited time he had out there.

Man City - Early injuries probably ruined his chance of getting on here, and Benayoun was brought on which is fair enough.

Debrecen - Gerrard was dead on his feet here and I for one was screaming for Aquilani to be brought on with about 15 minutes left. The 30 second substitution was pathetic.

Everton - at 2-0

So I'd say its touch and go between "several" and "a few" here.

[saj]

How did I contradict myself? I've been consistent all along in saying that the well being of the team is more important that Aquilani's fitness or whoever else.

Don't you think that Rafa isn't trying to improve his fitness behind closed doors by giving him practice matches, a fitness regime etc ? It seems it's all too easy criticising the manager from afar, especially from one's armchair.

A different username doesn't change an individual anyway so your comment is utterly ridiculous and I don't see where this can be on topic.

Absolute farce. Last night you said that Aquilani will need to prove himself in games but then you said he shouldn't be in the starting lineup as we're on a "winning run". That is one instance of your turret-like-contradictory-statements.

[saj]

Thats all you've got a bit of semantics on the use of the word "several" instead of "a few"? Anyway let's have a proper look:

Birmingham - brought on after 82 minutes, when we were struggling for creativity chasing a winner. Caused Birmingham problems when he came on for the limited time he had out there.

Man City - Early injuries probably ruined his chance of getting on here, and Benayoun was brought on which is fair enough.

Debrecen - Gerrard was dead on his feet here and I for one was screaming for Aquilani to be brought on with about 15 minutes left. The 30 second substitution was pathetic.

Everton - at 2-0

So I'd say its touch and go between "several" and "a few" here.

That would count as several to me. He should easily have been given at least 50 mins of game time spread across all those games.

[Guest]

Absolute farce. Last night you said that Aquilani will need to prove himself in games but then you said he shouldn't be in the starting lineup as we're on a "winning run". That is one instance of your turret-like-contradictory-statements.

Whatever way you wish to distort it. We'll have to disagree on this one. No big deal.

[pondus]

Thats all you've got a bit of semantics on the use of the word "several" instead of "a few"? Anyway let's have a proper look:

Birmingham - brought on after 82 minutes, when we were struggling for creativity chasing a winner. Caused Birmingham problems when he came on for the limited time he had out there.

Man City - Early injuries probably ruined his chance of getting on here, and Benayoun was brought on which is fair enough.

Debrecen - Gerrard was dead on his feet here and I for one was screaming for Aquilani to be brought on with about 15 minutes left. The 30 second substitution was pathetic.

Everton - at 2-0

So I'd say its touch and go between "several" and "a few" here.

Why was the 30 seconds against Debrecen so pathetic? All managers make a substitution with 1 or 2 minutes left when they are one-nil up and under pressure. Oh, I see, it was Rafa, so we have to find something to criticise him for

Not like the pitch was ideal for bringing him on earlier in that match.

Hopefully the management has everything under control, knowing all the facts and all, so we can enjoy a fully fit Aquilani for the rest of the season. I guess that's what we all want.

[cream]

Thats all you've got a bit of semantics on the use of the word "several" instead of "a few"? Anyway let's have a proper look:

Birmingham - brought on after 82 minutes, when we were struggling for creativity chasing a winner. Caused Birmingham problems when he came on for the limited time he had out there.

Man City - Early injuries probably ruined his chance of getting on here, and Benayoun was brought on which is fair enough.

Debrecen - Gerrard was dead on his feet here and I for one was screaming for Aquilani to be brought on with about 15 minutes left. The 30 second substitution was pathetic.

Everton - at 2-0

So I'd say its touch and go between "several" and "a few" here.

Sorry mate, neither of them games provided an opportunity without massive risk being involved.

[Pablo]

Sorry mate, neither of them games provided an opportunity without massive risk being involved.

Is it really a massive risk playing a £20m Italian international who has been super impressive for the lmited time we've seen him action so far? I don't think so at all.

[DannyMan2006]

if he does i will be very very surprised as he has not played for a few weeks and he has not played many minutes total,yet you expect him to play 90mins and inturn do himself an injury......he needs 20/30 mins a game to build up his muscle s and overall stamina and fitness

I meant Rafa will leave him on for the full 90 mins if he can handle it. Obviously if he gets tired then we would have to bring him off.

if ur fit enough for the bench ur fit enough to play.

No one is saying Aquilani isn't fit enough to play. What we are saying is that he is not fit enough to play the full 90 minutes of a premiership game at the top level.

Personally I would have thrown him on to see what he is made of, for at least 20 mins.

This is not the Aquilani show, it is about Liverpool FC. LFC is there to win games by playing to it's best. Rafa obviously thought that bringing on Aquilani would not have been the best idea. We were 1-0 up with Everton banging loudly on the door. Taking of Masch or Lucas would have been foolish due to this, whilst taking of Gerrard would have raised the spirits of the Everton team and crowd.

Aquilani did not play and as we won the game Rafa got it spot on. Had we not won the game then people would have been right in having a moan.

[DannyMan2006]

Is it really a massive risk playing a £20m Italian international who has been super impressive for the lmited time we've seen him action so far? I don't think so at all.

You do not work for Liverpool Football Club and therefore do not have access to how fit Aquilani is.

With that in mind I personally think it is a bit daft to be calling for Aquilani to be playing the full ninety or even thirty minutes.

I, like you and every other Liverpool fan, am very frustrated by the lack of creativity in the side and it is a great shame that Aquilani is not match fit, as I feel he could make a massive difference to our team.

But if he's not fit enough, then he's not fit enough.