Minutes from Christian Purslow and SOS Meeting

[Darkon]

I honestly don't understand the strategy of SOS or perhaps the lack of same??

While formed under a good idea, they have managed to drop their credibility on the floor, and much of their support from fans as well in the last year or so.

I know they probably have the clubs interest at hart, but they do far more damage than good with their statements and activities that at times borderline the idiotic if not crossing it as I would say this is a case of.

[JohnDoe]

I find the negativity towards SOS in this thread as outright embarrassing and short sighted. People are missing the big picture here. Purslow has clearly meant to let his harsh words go out to the media without admitting that he's said them. He answers to RBS, not G&H and doesn't fear being sacked. He would never have said those things if there was a risk of it happening, on or off the record.

He's also manipulating G&H out of the club and forcing their hand with some of those quotes, alerting buyers that they're desperate.

SOS are right in publishing what was said in the meeting, if they were making things up they'd be sued, simple as. Purslow has only made a "denial". People would have slaughtered them had they edited those minutes, there's absolutely no reason for them to be lying.

This is a very positive thing for the club and the fans, both Purslow and SOS have done a good job. I wouldn't be surprised if in reality they've formed a rapport judging by what's going on and the "disagreements" between them are a tactical ploy.

[redstaralex]

sos are absolute idiots and they're making us all look the same, all my arguments with my bluenose mates come to down to them laughing at me about sos even tho they know I can't stand them and then bringing up the manu songs at the sos meeting a while ago

I can see a point where sos win and I stop following football

[Vermilion]

Most people seem to be annoyed that they released the minutes, when they probably see it as their duty to inform the fans of what was said, if CP did say what they say he did, would everyone still be annoyed that they felt it was something the fans needed to know ?

Forget SOS's past for a minute, if they were in your eyes a respectable group would you expect them to keep you informed, they are a fans group, so is their duty to you as fans or to CP.

Just playing Devils advocate here btw.

[JohnDoe]

Most people seem to be annoyed that they released the minutes, when they probably see it as their duty to inform the fans of what was said, if CP did say what they say he did, would everyone still be annoyed that they felt it was something the fans needed to know ?

Forget SOS's past for a minute, if they were in your eyes a respectable group would you expect them to keep you informed, they are a fans group, so is their duty to you as fans or to CP.

Just playing Devils advocate here btw.

Absolutely right.

You're not playing Devil's advocate, because the people here are in a clear minority as far as I'm aware.

[redstaralex]

but it's their past that has made them NOT a respectable group

and as far as I'm aware the fans here are not in the minority, I go to the match and I have a drink after the match in a few bars and amongst my mates EVERYONE finds them an embarrassment to our club, when I talk to other people in the bars there aren't that many that are wholly supportive of sos, it's mostly apathy

[JohnDoe]

Those same apathetic fans do nothing while SOS does something, more than something in fact. It's easy to do nothing and be a critic. The fact is, SOS have given G&H a lot of grief. They're pressured them whenever they could, and have done the most a group of fans can do to save their club. They should be applauded.

[redstaralex]

doing something is not always better than waiting patiently for further developments and is certainly no reason to be applauded

[Vermilion]

but it's their past that has made them NOT a respectable group

and as far as I'm aware the fans here are not in the minority, I go to the match and I have a drink after the match in a few bars and amongst my mates EVERYONE finds them an embarrassment to our club, when I talk to other people in the bars there aren't that many that are wholly supportive of sos, it's mostly apathy

OK, but that's why i said forget their past for a moment, all i'm saying is..that, if they had been in your eyes a respectable fans group, would you as a fan expect them to tell you the truth about what CP said.

I'm just trying to find out whether people are just angry because they dislike sos, or angry that they released the minutes, if as i say you thought they were doing a good job up to now...would people be as angry about the releasing of these documents.

Do we as fans have a right to know.

Just curious.

[JohnDoe]

doing something is not always better than waiting patiently for further developments and is certainly no reason to be applauded

Seriously, what?

G&H are a cancer to his club, we've been waiting for three years, and they are clearly not going to do anything to make the club progress. Purslow has basically said it himself, even in his own "version" of the meeting.

[Craig_H]

If this £100m investment isnt found by the summer, the owners will have to sell the club.

Let's hope Purslow's working on a go-slow when it comes to finding investors...

[Darkon]

OK, but that's why i said forget their past for a moment, all i'm saying is..that, if they had been in your eyes a respectable fans group, would you as a fan expect them to tell you the truth about what CP said.

I'm just trying to find out whether people are just angry because they dislike sos, or angry that they released the minutes, if as i say you thought they were doing a good job up to now...would people be as angry about the releasing of these documents.

Do we as fans have a right to know.

Just curious.

In this case I would say that it does more harm than good to get these minutes out in the world press. I have now seen the story getting spread with a lot of negative focus on the club going throughout the world media. Basically it throws the focus away from the sporting side of the club, which is where the focus should be IMO.

The problem with all of this, and particular a wonder in SOS case, is that they where formed under the idea that we need to get back to the old values of the club i.e. keeping internal affairs inside club walls, keeping focus on supporting the players, the club, management etc. that are what supporters are here for. Instead they to me have keept a focus on the behind scene stuff and managed several times (this one included) to throw things that are not relevant to the public view in to the public and giving the club unneeded negative attention.

And I have to say that the pseudo-explanation (not you vermillion), that at least they are doing something unlike others, is to me just a sign of lack of real arguments for the way they have choosen to act. Inaction is also a choice and strategy, and can sometimes be better than doing something just for the sake of doing something.

When first formed I had high hopes for the idea, but unfortunately it has slowly faded with the strategy they have choosen to use - whether thought through or not.

[cream]

If this £100m investment isnt found by the summer, the owners will have to sell the club.

Let's hope Purslow's working on a go-slow when it comes to finding investors...

He's already said a lot of potential investors don't want to work with G+H, so its unlikely we see any coming in, unless they take a majority shareholding. Lets hope a total buyout is on the cards.

[dww]

OK, but that's why i said forget their past for a moment, all i'm saying is..that, if they had been in your eyes a respectable fans group, would you as a fan expect them to tell you the truth about what CP said.

I'm just trying to find out whether people are just angry because they dislike sos, or angry that they released the minutes, if as i say you thought they were doing a good job up to now...would people be as angry about the releasing of these documents.

Do we as fans have a right to know.

Just curious.

I'm not angry particularly I just think it is another thing that drags the name of the club through the dirt and that this airing of dirty laundry in public has done nothing but make the club and us as fans the object of other fans ridicule.

I'm not sure what Purslow's motivation for meeting them is/was but if this is what he wanted as JohnDoe suggests then I think that is pretty sad too. I'm not convinced that he would sue them if the article is inaccurate - getting involved in legal action with a fans group is a hiding to nothing.

If the SOS version is true then CP is talking down the value of the club and while we can service the debt that is not going to encourage Hicks and Gillet to sell so I don't see that as convincing logic for him saying these things and/or wanting the information leaked this way.

At this moment I don't think anyone has come out of this looking good.

[cream]

Every fan has a right to know what G+H are doing to this club.