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Apart from that, what have the Romans done for us?Those that hid Anne Frank were breaking the law.
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you need some 90 points to win this league because there are teams who are head and shoulders above the rest in the terms of resources and thus quality and strength in depth. the rest are also-rans. pretty much like la liga these days.Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
what your suggesting is that in la liga you can easily skip the odd game because other teams around you will do the same. which is, well, ignorant to the bone.
what i'm suggesting is that the league was much tougher to win in spain because a lot of teams had the same quality in their sides thus making it impossible to win that many games because the teams around you actually matched yours. because the overall quality of the league was far superior not because of defensive set ups or defensive mindsets.Comment
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From the mail...
Jose Mourinho has come clean about his imminent move to Real Madrid, despi t e derision from bitter rival Rafa Benitez.
The Bernabeu-bound Inter Milan boss yesterday cleared the way for his appointment as Manuel Pellegrini's successor, admitting: 'I want to coach Real - 100 per cent.'
Mad for it: Inter Milan coach Jose Mourinho arrives in Madrid for Saturday's Champions League final
But as Mourinho talked of a move that is likely to be rubberstamped after Saturday's Champions League f inal between Inter and Bayern Munich at the Bernabeu, he came under fire from a familiar source.
Benitez renewed hostilities from Mourinho's days at Chelsea by questioning Real's choice. The Madrid-born Liverpool manager, a former youth and reserve-team coach at Real, said: 'I know Mourinho has been mentioned as the next Real Madrid boss, but I don't know if he is the right person to be the coach there.
'Manuel Pellegrini is still in charge, and I have the maximum respect for any manager who is in a job. He has behaved in an exemplary manner, because it's not nice for him to hear people talking about him going.
'Mourinho is doing very well (at Inter), and people talk about him going to Real, but he also has a contract. I like Madrid, but if I say too much, there will be headlines tomorrow.'
Capital interest: Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez also had an appointment in Madrid this week - a business conference
Despite Benitez, Mourinho said he was ready to restore Real's status in Europe after they trailed behind Barcelona in La Liga, crashed out of the Copa del Rey to a third-tier club and lost in the first knock-out round of the Champions League.
'A great coach or player who doesn't play at a club like Madrid will finish his career with something missing,' said the former Chelsea manager, who has 12 months left on his Inter contract. 'I want to coach Real Madrid - 100 per cent. Whether it will be next year or later I can't say.
'To leave this club after two incredible years of work, it can only be for Madrid. And if I go, it's with a clean conscience.'
Inter president Massimo Moratti revealed he was ready to consult Mourinho over his replacement, saying: 'If we have to change our coach, we will hear what Jose says and take on board his views. I hope he will suggest the right man to carry on all the good work he has done this season.'
Input from Mourinho i s unlikely to enhance Benitez's prospects of the job, but Italian reports claimed Inter's head of technical staff Marco Branca flew to Madrid to meet the 50-year-old yesterday.
Mourinho is thought to have suggested Bayern boss Louis van Gaal or new Turkey coach Guus Hiddink, but Inter chiefs admit they would struggle to lure either from their current position.
Benitez tried to quell speculation, saying: 'I have four years left on my contract, and I hope to make Liverpool competitive again.'In Klopp we trust.Comment
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I think Rafa should sometimes keep quiet on issues like this.Originally posted by JudgeRed View Post
He doesn't do himself any favours.Comment
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Fair play of Rafa. To talk about moving into someone else job when they still have that job is not on imo,Trey Nyoni: countdown to stardom-2 years1year0.5 yearsComment
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He was in Madrid at some award thing, he hasnt just come out and commented.Originally posted by Shanks View Post
Regardless, he hasnt said anything wrong anyway, there has got to be doubts about how Mourinho would fit at Madrid given their demands for great football as much as results, and his personality when the board their usually just have lap dogs. Rafa would face the same problems there.
And lets not forget, it was Mourinho who had a dig at us the other day.Comment
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No, what i'm suggesting is that when Rafa won La Liga with Valencia, they didnt even need 80 points. Meaning there was far more margin for error and scope to go away to lower sides and come away with a point. Unlike in a league where 90 points was required to win it.Originally posted by fred_plasticine View Post
The figures, back then, support this.Comment
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I know, I believe it was an open forum but it still doesn't mean he has to come out with comments like that. imo.Originally posted by Chris View PostComment
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completely disagree.Originally posted by Shanks View Post
mourinho always takes pops at him and us. rafa doesnt take sh1t like that lying down. only a meek manager would. rafa calling people out - including fergie - is something i rate the man highly for.Comment
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More news about the anti-football policy employed by Mourihno.
BBC SPORT
Robben queries Mourinho approach
Champions League 2010 final: Inter Milan v Bayern Munich Venue: Estadio Santiago Bernabeu, Madrid Kick-off: Saturday, 1945 BST Coverage: BBC Radio 5 Live, BBC World Service and ITV1
Bayern Munich's Arjen Robben says his former Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho is only interested in winning and does not care about his teams' style of play.
Robben faces his old manager when Munich play Mourinho's Inter Milan in Saturday's Champions League final.
"He puts out a winning team, it doesn't matter if it's done with nice football or not," winger Robben told BBC Sport.
"The philosophy at Bayern is the coach [Louis van Gaal] wants to win games by playing nice football."
The 26-year-old added: "As a player you want to play and enjoy the game, that's also an important part."
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After failing to get past the knockout stage in the last two years, Mourinho has taken Inter to their first European Cup final since 1972.
They clinched their place in the final with a 3-2 aggregate semi-final win over defending champions Barcelona, winning the first leg in Milan 3-1 and then putting on an ultra-defensive display in the second leg, where they lost 1-0.
But Mourinho defended and justified Inter's tactics in the game at the Camp Nou.
"We won the tie in Barcelona, but everyone talks about Barcelona winning [the second leg] and says we parked the bus in front of the goal. We didn't park the bus, we parked the airplane," he said.
Robben spent three years working with the self-styled 'Special One' at Stamford Bridge, before joining Real Madrid - ironically, the venue for Saturday's final, and also widely rumoured to be Mourinho's next club if he leaves Inter in the summer.
And although the Dutch winger is full of respect for the Portuguese coach, he said his win-at-all-costs approach was one of the things that led to him leaving Chelsea.
"I was working with him three years at Chelsea. It was a successful time, he's a big personality and as a coach of a top team you need to be," stated Robben.
"He knew how to work with big players and put them together and let them work together.
"He certainly knew what he was talking about and had the respect of every single player.
"But we started to play more in this diamond without wingers, which is not good for me. The system changed a bit so I made my decision and left."
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Published: 2010/05/20 08:01:22 GMT
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Originally posted by PeteBest View Post
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Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?
Think we have the answer..Slot!!
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The figures can back your point but they don't say that it was easier to win. You can't compare continental football with the english premier league, both are totally different. Watching a game in Italy, France or even la liga can bore you to death, simply because teams approach games with more caution than in those leagues, which may explain the low point tally (which Barca took to another level this year).Originally posted by Craig_H View Post
When there's a dominant team, and by dominant I mean a team (or a couple of teams) which outperforms the rest by far, it would always require a special effort to match that level. Chelsea and United have been dominating this league for the best part of 5 or 6 years now, which shows that without investment in playing personel, the margin for error is much less. Doesn't mean that Rafa isn't up to it, just that it's harder for him to compete on an equal footing when the rules are being dictated by how much a team can spend on world class talent.
What we achieved last season was exceptional IMO. We broke the hegemony of United and Chelsea by sneaking amongst them and we never spent as much as they did. It was always a tough assignment to follow this with a slightly weaker squad. Getting to the top is fine but staying there is the hardest, and without investment we will always struggle.Last edited by Guest; 20-05-10, 11:32 AM.Comment
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Rafa's also a winner, facts back that mate.Originally posted by red g View Post
I was just emphasising the hypocrisy of some people who slag off Rafa for playing defensively when Mourihno is known for being worst.Comment
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