The New Manager Thread

[Rowan]

what facts do you have to back up that Kenny was different to the others in terms of management ability and also to adapt with the time? i am not saying your wrong but i cant see anything to back it up either.

Well, he won more than the rest did. He showed that he wasn't afraid to let a top player go and re-evolve a squad where necessary. His teams always had a balance of attacking vim matched with defensive stability. Goals came from all over the pitch (remember Palace? 8 different scorers). We were strong, competitive, athletic and deadly. He was a visionary. Miles ahead of his time and if he could recreate that we'd batter those pesky lower end teams we often struggle against.

Course, he'd need financial backing to make the necessary changes so it's a moot point unfortunately.

[CJ]

Well, he won more than the rest did. He showed that he wasn't afraid to let a top player go and re-evolve a squad where necessary. His teams always had a balance of attacking vim matched with defensive stability. Goals came from all over the pitch (remember Palace? 8 different scorers). We were strong, competitive, athletic and deadly. He was a visionary. Miles ahead of his time and if he could recreate that we'd batter those pesky lower end teams we often struggle against.

Course, he'd need financial backing to make the necessary changes so it's a moot point unfortunately.

look at the ageing team he left. he had paisley fagan helping him.

i suppose we will never agree on this.

just to reiterate to everyone i would love a sucessful Kenny to be manager but i really cant see it. its too much of a risk for the club and the man.

[CJ]

How about we just agree that, as with any new manager coming in, we don't know whether he would be a sucess or not. We'll only know when one is appointed and gives it a go.

There you go, just saved days and days and pages and pages of wasted discussion. Think how much time you owe me

not allowed to say we miss rafa.

not allowed to discuss who will replace him. it doesnt leave much to talk about

so have you had a nice saturday? there where ducks flying near hear bloody noisy things.

[Kenneth]

not allowed to say we miss rafa.

not allowed to discuss who will replace him. it doesnt leave much to talk about

so have you had a nice saturday? there where ducks flying near hear bloody noisy things.

Yep, it's all been done.

Had a strange day, the wife wanted to go to Bradford for the day, so we did and it was ****. Silly woman.

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

I see the Sunday Express has us linked with David Moyes.
Wouldn't mind seeing him take over,but there is probably 0% chance of it ever happening.

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/179397/Liverpool-chief-plans-raid-to-lure-David-Moyes-/

[Rowan]

look at the ageing team he left. he had paisley fagan helping him.

i suppose we will never agree on this.

just to reiterate to everyone i would love a sucessful Kenny to be manager but i really cant see it. its too much of a risk for the club and the man.

Aye, I suppose so. Still, I've enjoyed the discussion. Like you I'd be gutted if he came in and made a right mess of things. The trouble with a Kenny appointment is it's not just about the fact that for any manager returning us to former glories is a big ask. He also runs the risk of undermining his original achievements and losing his status as one of our great managers. If he came in, did worse than Rafa and the fans felt he to had to go that could happen. After all, our fans who weren't around in the 80's probably don't have the same appreciation or reverence as we do so it's a real possibilty. That'd be the only reason I wouldn't want him to come back!

But as I said, it's been a good discussion. Enjoy the rest of the night, Marsh.

[Mike]

We wont get Moyes, no chance.

[Craig_H]

its always been like that. formations have changed tactics have changed. if you can have a look at maureens leaked notes for playing us i think.

the science of the game has moved on.

again i will mention what the forrest players thought of clough at the end. he was too simplistic they wanted more coaching more information on the opposition and the team around clough did that without his knowledge as they respected him to much to say he wasnt up to it anymore.

now kenny may be fully up to speed with modern techniques etc but for me its too much of a risk and remember the risk is that some people will bracket him with souness the manager. look at some peoples opinions on him despite him being in the top 3 of players who have ever played for us. (i admit the article in the scum may also form part of tht view)

look at how fit players are now. wasnt there an article on how now the most important part of the game is when posestion changes as teams are that well drilled?

Would shanks be a good manager now? probably not as he was very much a motivator and not a huge tactics man and modern football tactics have evolved hugely. it doesnt mean shanks isnt a legend and it doesnt take away from the fact that he set the template for the club for a number of years.

but sucessful clubs look forwards and no matter how you look at it the King is not forwards he is a romantic look to our past, a legend who doesnt need to do anything as his place is cemented and assured

Can you actually put into words how formations and tactics have changed?

[Mike]

Can you actually put into words how formations and tactics have changed?

Jus a quick one, most teams now play with the one striker instead of two.

[Craig_H]

Jus a quick one, most teams now play with the one striker instead of two.

Yeah but i dont understand why this would stump a manager like Dalglish.

Formations have changed, but where's the problem with that?

It's not like Kenny would turn up to training, be told that the team was used to playing with a 1 striker system and then slap himself on the forehead chanting 'i dont understand'.

[Kenneth]

Yeah but i dont understand why this would stump a manager like Dalglish.

Formations have changed, but where's the problem with that?

It's not like Kenny would turn up to training, be told that the team was used to playing with a 1 striker system and then slap himself on the forehead chanting 'i dont understand'.

And Kenny himself was never an out and out striker, especially in his later years. Was the partnership of Kenny and Rush that different to playing Gerrard supporting a striker?

[Mike]

Yeah but i dont understand why this would stump a manager like Dalglish.

Formations have changed, but where's the problem with that?

It's not like Kenny would turn up to training, be told that the team was used to playing with a 1 striker system and then slap himself on the forehead chanting 'i dont understand'.

He is used to managing in a way that is different to nowadays.

Full backs are different, midfielders have more to do, strikers play diffrerently - not saying he would struggle but it wouldnt surprise me if he took some time to get started.

[Craig_H]

Hmm. I dont buy it myself.

If he'd been away and not watched PL football for a decade, then maybe yeah.

But he's been keeping in touch with everything, watched it consistently and seen how it's evolved.

[Mike]

Hmm. I dont buy it myself.

If he'd been away and not watched PL football for a decade, then maybe yeah.

But he's been keeping in touch with everything, watched it consistently and seen how it's evolved.

Its one thing watching and another thing being part of it.

[Craig_H]

I think you're reading far too much into it.