Originally posted by Operation
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Is that fangled or fandangled ? Feeling a little pedantic so please clarify mate
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Whenever Newcastle pinned their hopes on a past hero like Keegan, Robson or Shearer, I felt sorry for them. I thought they were living in the past, and inevitably, those managers were doomed from the outset. They were legends, but life could never match up to the rose tinted memories each man was associated with.
I can't quite shake the feeling that if we went with King Kenny, we'd be going down the same route. He is a living legend. He played a blinder in the first ever Liverpool match I went to, but in the current circumstances, he simply can't repeat his 80s success now.Comment
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I agree with this. There's no evidence to back this up but it's just a gut feeling.Originally posted by kubrickscube View PostComment
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There is no way that Robson or Kenny (or Keegan for that matter) were failures at Newcastle. There performances well exceeded the realistic ambitions that The Toon should have had. Their only failings are as a consequence of the fact that the clubs fans (waves to neighbours) are all totally retarded. A bunch of over ambitious, unrealistic simpletons for a want of a better comparison.Originally posted by kubrickscube View Post
It baffles me to hear people say he didn't do well there as I think he did a more than acceptable job (3rd in the league and agonisingly close to the FA Cup). Incodently after that cup loss their fans went on a rampage and smashed up the town. ****wits!A lot of people run a race to see who is fastest. I run to see who has the most guts, who can punish himself into exhausting pace, and then at the end, punish himself even more.Comment
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under kenny we had some decent attacking fullbacks so i dont think that the problem. in terms of formations you need to realise that we have just let go of a manager who played a defensive and highly inflexible system which made us look boring and unimaginative.Originally posted by Mike View Post
i dont think formations will stump kenny but where i think the biggest change has come over the past 20 years is in the micro management of players with serious advances in nutrition, the medical treatment (20 years ago any player being treated in serbia with horse placenta would have told you to **** off) the stats analysis of games ie prozone etc, and in general the science of football.
its whether a manager from the last era can adapt to these sorts of changes in the modern game. if you add to that the headache of players wages, egos and even academy players on decent money then it might be a step too far.[B]Sir Isaac Newton knew the universal law of karma - any action has its equal and opposite reaction.[B]Comment
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They were failures because their ambitions were never matched, unrealistic or not. Let's also not forget the fact that they were throwing money around buying players such as Shearer, Asprilla etc ...Originally posted by Rowan View Post
Newcastle are a big club, whether you like it or not. They have a very loyal fan base. Why would it be unrealistic for them to wish for a successful team if they have the right financial backing?
What failed them is to hold on to past glories, a bit like Liverpool FC.Comment
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Having said that, watching how many touches we sometimes need before giving a pass makes me long for training sessions of constant two-touch five a sides every day like they used to.Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
I know that's a bit naive, but maybe we've lost something somewhere too.Comment
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Please be true!Originally posted by IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST View PostKlopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."
Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.Comment
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I think a lot would depend on how much Kenny was willing to delegate and which coaches he decided to work with. O'Neill for example by repute does almost no training ground work. Kenny has been around the club and presumably has a decent relationship with Sammy Lee who has been involved in the day to day training under Rafa."The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
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Sammy Lee will be moved on or given an different job.Originally posted by dww View Post
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Self drive you mickey mouse piece of ****tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt tttttttttttttt!!!Originally posted by Operation View Post
Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."
Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.Comment
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In my opinion the best person to assess the capabilities of Kenny is the man himself. If he felt he was still capable of managing in the modern game I am sure with the club hanging over the precipice, as it is, he would put himself forward. It is obvious that he feels there are people more capable out there. If all possibilities are exhausted and he does still feel like he can take the club forward, then I am sure he would rise to the challenge.
The concern I have is that I believe in the mantra ' never go back '. Look at Keegan. When he went back to Newcastle, he looked completely out of his depth. I now we are talking about a different personality to Kenny but Keegan had only been out of the game for four or five years at that time.Comment
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I think David moyes would be a great candidate, he's one of the new breed of Managers and is one of the few that have had proven success.Originally posted by Slinky Skills View Post
I think what liverpool need more than anything is a consistent approach to rebuilding. Rafa Benitez got fired because despite winning the Champs league and an FA CUP and getting us to another final and quite some semis, he only ever challenged for the league realistically once and that was in a very poor year for the likes of Arsenal and Chelsea. I would rather that the new manager made us challenge for the title year in year out and win it at least once that win the champs league once or even twice after qualifying for it in fourth place.
Although we won the champions league in 2005, it still grates with me that we only finished 5th in our own league. i know his first comments after winning the Champs league was we need to change the team and he was backed, but at the end of the day he never challenged as well as he did with Gerard Houlliers team.Jacques Brel is alive and well and playing at AnfieldComment
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Originally posted by 5europeancups View Post
What about the team that finished 2nd in the league that wasn't Houllier's teamThe only gracious way to accept an insult is to ignore it; if you can't ignore it, top it; if you can't top it, laugh at it; if you can't laugh at it, it's probably deserved.Comment
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Lippi anyone?
There are reports that Italy boss Marcello Lippi is Liverpool’s target to replace Rafa Benitez.
The 2006 World Cup winner has already confirmed he will leave his post after the tournament in South Africa, making way for Cesare Prandelli.
This week Liverpool terminated their contract with Benitez by mutual consent, so they are on the look-out for a new Coach.
According to the Gazzetta dello Sport, Lippi represents the kind of solidity and success rate that the new Anfield owners are looking for.
His presence would also help guarantee that stars such as Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres will stay on at the club.
The newspaper claims that both Liverpool legends Kenny Dalglish and Ian Rush would support this appointment.
Lippi has always said that he would like an experience in the Premier League and that he wouldn’t accept another Serie A job after the Azzurri.
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Would be right out of left field, but you can't argue with what the guy has achieved in the game!K ris90210Comment
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