The New Manager Thread

[Vermilion]

A Europa League final with that squad? The fact that he managed to do this and keep Fulham well away from the drop zone all season he a fantastic acheivement. Compare to Rafa's last season. Mmmmm.

Oh yeah, lets compare our worst season to fulhams best, yeah right, why not compare managerial achievements, and the time taken in their respective careers to win the trophies they have as managers, that's a better form guide don't you think ?

[BobTheCharmer]

We've just sacked a manager who won the Champions League with a ****e squad, got to another final, regularly got us into the semis and now we are on the brink of bringing in another manager because he managed to get them into a UEFA final and finish 12th in the league

Each season as the '****e' squad he inherited should have been improving it actually got worse, trophy wise.

Rafa had a good innings, but he wasn't ever going to stay forever just like Torres won't. Time to move on. It isn't all doom and gloom. It might be, but it isn't yet, I refuse to believe that.

[Mostar]

How utterly depressing.

Sack Benitez, pay him off and pay a further £8m or so to bring in Roy. Is this some sort of parallel universe or something FFS

That best summarizes the lunacy of our present situation. Shameful and disgraceful.

[Lecter]

I don't think they have to do either at least straight away. they need to build a decent team and win games and preferably remain dignified whilst doing it. I think Roy could probably do that.

Given the situation we are in we probably have to adjust our aims accordingly.

I've adjusted my aims a long long time ago

To me Hodgson is below even my current standards

Sorry I just cannot get my head round this appointment UNLESS the board are looking to actively have a convenient excuse when players slap in transfer requests

[Lecter]

Each season as the '****e' squad he inherited should have been improving it actually got worse, trophy wise.

Rafa had a good innings, but he wasn't ever going to stay forever just like Torres won't. Time to move on. It isn't all doom and gloom. It might be, but it isn't yet, I refuse to believe that.

I appreciate its time to move on

But what I cannot accept is moving on to Hodgson

Its like deciding to upgrade your car and selling a Jaguar and buying a Skoda

[Lecter]

Oh yeah, lets compare our worst season to fulhams best, yeah right, why not compare managerial achievements, and the time taken in their respective careers to win the trophies they have as managers, that's a better form guide don't you think ?

Exactly

[Mostar]

I don't think they have to do either at least straight away. they need to build a decent team and win games and preferably remain dignified whilst doing it. I think Roy could probably do that.

Given the situation we are in we probably have to adjust our aims accordingly.

Sorry mate but I don't think I can. I expect us always to challenge at least for top 4 and with Woy in charge for me it is very discouraging to even contemplate that thought.

[Finnish_Red]

Each season as the '****e' squad he inherited should have been improving it actually got worse, trophy wise.

Rafa had a good innings, but he wasn't ever going to stay forever just like Torres won't. Time to move on. It isn't all doom and gloom. It might be, but it isn't yet, I refuse to believe that.

It is as long as those 2 clowns are pulling the strings. Can't see us making any progress untill they are gone.

IF Roy is our next manager I kind of feel sorry for him since he's only going to be here for the transition time with diddly squat resources. Surely the new owners will want to name their own manager, no?

[dww]

Sorry mate but I don't think I can. I expect us always to challenge at least for top 4 and with Woy in charge for me it is very discouraging to even contemplate that thought.

I honestly don't think the manager is the main factor that will affect this. If the owners/board are willing to invest then we have some chance of keeping Gerrard and Torres, if they aren't we don't. If those two go then I think that no matter what this season will to an extent be about damage limitation and giving having a good base to build from the season after.

IAFN

Sadly I think it is also the reality.

[Mostar]

I've adjusted my aims a long long time ago

To me Hodgson is below even my current standards

Sorry I just cannot get my head round this appointment UNLESS the board are looking to actively have a convenient excuse when players slap in transfer requests

I am absolutely amazed that we would, under any circumstances, ever consider a manager like Woy.

It is so bitterly disappointing to realise how low we have fallen as a club when we have a discussion about Hodgson's managerial qualities.

[BobTheCharmer]

Oh yeah, lets compare our worst season to fulhams best, yeah right, why not compare managerial achievements, and the time taken in their respective careers to win the trophies they have as managers, that's a better form guide don't you think ?

Of course I'm going to compare last season. Lecter was referring to Hodgson not overacheiving. I think he did.

Rafa's CV is very good. No one can argue that fact. But he has been at a decent team in Spain (already established by Cuper as a threat to Madrid & Barca) and Liverpool. I would expect the acheivements on someones CV to look better in terms of Champions League and League Finishes than someone that has on the whole learnt & plied his trade with smaller teams and nations, Inter apart. You have to look at more in a manager in my view and thats whats wrong with the modern game.

[BobTheCharmer]

Its like deciding to upgrade your car and selling a Jaguar and buying a Skoda

Or deciding that paying over the top to run a jaguar is stupid in the current climate when a skoda gives better reliability, is more economical and effectively does the same job, gets you form A-B.

[Mostar]

I honestly don't think the manager is the main factor that will affect this. If the owners/board are willing to invest then we have some chance of keeping Gerrard and Torres, if they aren't we don't. If those two go then I think that no matter what this season will to an extent be about damage limitation and giving having a good base to build from the season after.

IAFN

Sadly I think it is also the reality.

Appointing a good solid manager, that would be able to bring the confidence back and keep our key players would be the first step in right direction.

I personally also think that even with the loss of Masch, Benny and perhaps Steve G, if the money is re-invested back into the squad we could potentially still be in the mix.

For that reason, high profile coach like Manual imo would be much better choice.

[Vermilion]

Of course I'm going to compare last season. Lecter was referring to Hodgson not overacheiving. I think he did.

Rafa's CV is very good. No one can argue that fact. But he has been at a decent team in Spain (already established by Cuper as a threat to Madrid & Barca) and Liverpool. I would expect the acheivements on someones CV to look better in terms of Champions League and League Finishes than someone that has on the whole learnt & plied his trade with smaller teams and nations, Inter apart. You have to look at more in a manager in my view and thats whats wrong with the modern game.

You also then have to look at why before now, at his age, had Hodgson not won anything big, you say it's because he managed small cubs apart from Inter, well yes, but why has'nt he made his mark at a big club, or even been offered the chance to do so more often, i think people are looking into these managers, and most just believe Rafa was a far better manager than Hodgson, as i'd wager does most of the football world, and those who make and have made mangerial appointments at big clubs throughout europe.

[Lecter]

a skoda gives better reliability,.