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https://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=4002484#post4002484
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Paul.S
What a joke this is becoming reading all the sorry posts.
Rafa has done well in the past at the club but ultimately failed to deliver the one trophy we all really wanted, the premier league. Not only that, but I can only think of about a year and half worth of games throughout his reign where the football has actually been greatly entertaining.
I'll be honest, I would prefer us to win than play good football, but when he failed to deliver either last season I can't really feel any sadness at all today. We were awful last year.
Take a look at some of the players in the first team last year, they were shocking. Then wonder why he persists with some of the dreadfull players he had bought.
I've no doubt Rafa would likely have delivered a title with millions upon millions to spend, but then so could plenty of other managers. He knew coming in that we would not be flush with cash, and he knew the pressures of winning the title.
Quite simply he has failed as manager of Liverpool and last season was the last straw for me.
From my understanding, Rafa had a clause in his contract that allowed him to veto any sale of players. Now he's gone, you want to trust any of that with these turds left?
ffs
Not sure any manager would have such a clause tbh.
YNWA Rafa'; I'm so very sad to see you go - I'll always remember what you did for us and am very sad my Little Boy won't see us with you as our manager. Your worth 20 each of the Pygmies who Own us and Drove you out in the End. Good Luck at your next Job and here's hoping you shove HUGE helpings of Schadenfrude down H & G's throat for Years to come..................
I am truly gutted, feel so sorry for Rafa. You are an LFC legend, you will always be the man that brought me the greatest night of my life.
In your own words, YNWA Rafa.
Good luck wherever you may be. Hopefully we'll meet you again some time.
Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."
Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.
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. Suppose you have a physicist and a sociologist standing at the side of a field, observing a set of events unfolding on the field. The physicist does [describes] it using the terminology of mass and velocity and frequency of radiation and the rest. And the sociologist does it by describing it as a rugby match.
I cannot put in to words the resentment I feel for that ****ing snake Purslow, the American weasels and Broughton. I feel extremely bitter about this, Rafa deserved so much better. 12 months or so ago Purslow was a ****ing nobody, albeit a wealthy nobody, and now he's throwing his weight around Anfield and treating legends like Rafa like total ****. How ****ing dare he. I thought his remit was to sell the club anyway? He failed. Sack the cunt.
What a joke this is becoming reading all the sorry posts.
Rafa has done well in the past at the club but ultimately failed to deliver the one trophy we all really wanted, the premier league. Not only that, but I can only think of about a year and half worth of games throughout his reign where the football has actually been greatly entertaining.
I'll be honest, I would prefer us to win than play good football, but when he failed to deliver either last season I can't really feel any sadness at all today. We were awful last year.
Take a look at some of the players in the first team last year, they were shocking. Then wonder why he persists with some of the dreadfull players he had bought.
I've no doubt Rafa would likely have delivered a title with millions upon millions to spend, but then so could plenty of other managers. He knew coming in that we would not be flush with cash, and he knew the pressures of winning the title.
Quite simply he has failed as manager of Liverpool and last season was the last straw for me.
It's not necessarily about the logic of the decision.
There's more to it than that. From a personal point of view, i'm very fond of him and very sad at today. Furthermore, the way it's been done is a disgrace and totally unbefitting of the club we once were, and not appropriate for a man of Rafa's dignity and class.
It's not necessarily about the logic of the decision.
There's more to it than that. From a personal point of view, i'm very fond of him and very sad at today. Furthermore, the way it's been done is a disgrace and totally unbefitting of the club we once were, and not appropriate for a man of Rafa's dignity and class.
Exactly right, there's a damn sight more to it than that extremely myopic view. A much bigger picture.
Thanks very much for being ‘This Mornings’ Farmer’
From the Telegraph, just a reminder what we have lost.
Approached by a newspaper hoping to engage him as a columnist for this summer’s World Cup, Rafael Benítez politely refused, explaining that such a task would be too much work for a man hoping to enjoy a summer with his family.
By Rory Smith
Published: 7:30AM BST 03 Jun 2010
Parting of the ways: Rafa Benitez and Steven Gerrard achieved a considerable amount together at Liverpool but the league title remained elusive Photo: GETTY IMAGES
“For example,” he said. With him, there is always an example. “When I did commentary for Spanish TV on a Real Betis match, I spoke to players from both teams to find out how they’d line up, how they expected to play. Only then could I say how well they’d executed their plans. It has to be right. I cannot just do it in 20 minutes, like some pundits.” Obsessive, meticulous, perfectionist.
Given that he would put such effort into a newspaper column, it is easy to imagine the diligence with which he attacked his day job. He returned to his Melwood office after another of the emotional, intense European nights which became his speciality in six years at Anfield to watch reruns of the game, highlighting areas for improvement.
Such traits are highly prized at Liverpool, even now, even when the club has lost sight of the path it followed under Shankly, Paisley, Fagan and Dalglish.
Little wonder that when Benítez arrived, fresh from La Liga and Uefa Cup triumphs at Valencia, that the coach who had seemed restive in his early years looked to have found a club where he fitted.
The Kop took to him immediately, any doubts as to his ability engendered by a mediocre first league campaign washed away in the fevered fantasy of Istanbul in 2005; any fears over his character dismissed by his appearance in a German pub thronged with Liverpool fans prior to victory in the last-16.
The breathless FA Cup triumph which followed in Cardiff in 2006 cemented his place in Liverpool’s folklore. Even defeat in Athens, AC Milan’s revenge, in 2007 and the barbs of opposing fans could not shake Anfield’s faith. Benítez was the conqueror of Europe, Jose Mourinho’s nemesis and Shankly’s heir, protector of the Liverpool way.
Anfield was a very different place, though. David Moores had sold the club for £218.9 million to Tom Hicks and George Gillett in February 2007, the new “custodians” vowing to take Liverpool to the Promised Land, the league title. The Americans, their promises and their wallets empty, would serve only to deepen the club’s purgatory.
They had scarcely been in charge for six months when details emerged of their conversations with Jurgen Klinsmann over the possibility ofhim succeeding Benítez, should he decide to go.
The Spaniard bit back, repeating the mantra that he was “focused on preparing and coaching his team”, the dismissive, arrogant phrase his absentee landlords had directed at him as they sharpened the knife to plunge in his back. In hindsight, that was the breaking point.
Since then, Benítez has found himself doing anything but focusing on preparing and coaching his team. To borrow one of the terms he deploys most to describe the players he tries to bring to his sides, the Spaniard was condemned to operate between the lines.
He has played politician, forging shifting alliances with Liverpool’s power-brokers and eventually learning to thrive amid the backbiting and infighting as the relationship between Hicks, Gillett and Rick Parry, the erstwhile chief executive, deteriorated.
And he played bank manager, too, as the debt mountain placed on the club by Hicks and Gillett soared, wheeling and dealing to balance the books. In Benítez’s own words, Liverpool have, for two years, been a company, not a football team.
He enjoyed only limited success in the role of the Spanish Harry Redknapp. Many of his buys have been ill-judged, his failure to leave Liverpool with a squad imbued with quality in depth the most damning indictment of his tenure.
That did not stop him mounting Liverpool’s first genuine title challenge for almost a decade, though, even as chaos threatened to engulf the club. That success, though, could never last in such a flawed environment.
Benítez’s magic touch deserted him, his five-year, £20 million contract signed in March 2009 – the final act in his struggle for power with Parry – left looking like a monument to the club’s folly. Liverpool, in the space of a few months, lost their Champions League status not twice, and found themselves cut adrift from the Premier League elite.
Lads, can we leave the mods to decide who said what and how out of order it was - and just concentrate on the topic at hand?
Things are bad enough without having to read utter tripe. We'll do that the other 364 days of the year. Let's leave it today.
Klopp on LFC vs MUFC (March 9th 2016) - "This is why I love football. This is why we watched it when we were young. I can still not have enough of it."
Always, keep your face to the sun, and shadows will fall behind you.
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