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https://www.est1892.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=4002484#post4002484
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Paul.S
If you are a member of SOS or condone that then go **** yourself. I am as much a Liverpool supporter as many on here. I am American. I'm a veteran of the American armed forces, as were both my grandfathers, and numerous relatives who died in Europe in both WWI AND WWII. I don't like G&H, or what they have done to my club. But **** you lot and your insults.
Fancy singling The US out like that. If they were planning on burning an American flag they could have least had the decency to even things up by burning a Canadian flag too.
Would it not have carried more weight to have just torched the nearest Starbucks? A blow to the heart if rampart American consumerism and it's unwanted infringement on our unique culture if ever there was one.
If every LFC fan who supports Rafa sent an email to SSN expressing their disgust at the decision, then they would be able to state the number received on air (they'd repeat it every ten mins as well, as it would show what an important programme they are).
Imagine the effect that them saying they'd received 75,000 emails supporting Rafa would have compared to 600 people physically turning up at the ground.
How about getting into Anfield and staging a sit in protest at the current situation?
I think a demonstration of the sheer global scale of support for Rafa would be better, hence emails to a body who will then trumpet the number received rather than something that only people nearby can do would be better?
If you are a member of SOS or condone that then go **** yourself. I am as much a Liverpool supporter as many on here. I am American. I'm a veteran of the American armed forces, as were both my grandfathers, and numerous relatives who died in Europe in both WWI AND WWII. I don't like G&H, or what they have done to my club. But **** you lot and your insults.
Dude, I totally agree that it was a very misguided thing to do and I don't think many people do condone it. And probably some who do, do so on the basis that, "well, its only a bit of cloth, what's a flag anyway" etc. Now although personally there's no flag anyone could burn that would offend me, the fact is this would always offend other people, both some American LFC fans like yourself, and unassociated Americans too. That sort of thing is inevitably a PR disaster. Plus its just infantile really.
However, it was a very isolated action by a very small number of people, I'd imagine most people even at the demo thought it was a stupid thing to do. I can only surmise that after 3 years of insanity at ownership level with our club, people have become so frustrated and angry and feel so powerless they're now lashing out in totally unthought-through ways. That's not really an excuse, but perhaps it is partially an explanation.
As for that article you posted, I'm entirely unsuprised that Kanwar has tried to make a big thing out of it in order to push his own agenda as usual, which is basically anti everything most LFC fans think and care about. For example, I'd hardly describe anger at our owners as "irrational", and as for dissing Barrett and Tomkins, pretty much the only decent journos who write about our club.... sorry but the bloke is a self-promoting, egotistical snake, and using an incident like this to smear other, uninvolved lfc fans is just, to use his own words, cheap, classless and childish.
I could not dig, I dared not rob:
Therefore I lied to please the mob.
Now all my lies are proved untrue
And I must face the men I slew.
What tale shall serve me here among
Mine angry and defrauded young?
How about all the owners of LFC fansites mobilising the troops by putting a flashing banner on their front pages instructing members to email SSN complaining about Rafa's sacking? Ah.....
I'm beginning to like this idea more and more - it would be like a modern day gathering of the tribes, using the power of the internet to harness the power of a scattered people against a common foe by uniting usually insular and sometimes even, warring, groups.
Just listening to Ballague, and what he was very clear about was that Rafa tried to stay at Liverpool, "till the last minute he tried", said Ballague, "but he was not allowed".
Just listening to Ballague, and what he was very clear about was that Rafa tried to stay at Liverpool, "till the last minute he tried", said Ballague, "but he was not allowed".
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