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[Kopite_Colin]

Well yes it is hard to work out because we are no worse off than last season, .

Yes we are - beacause like it or not, we don't have goals from a source - Cisse. Like him or loathe him - he scored goals - even out of position. Add Stevie's barren spell cf to last season and suddenly we look terribly short of goals, - 42 to be exact.

[Morph]

That's that argument bolloxed then isn't it.

[Kopite_Colin]

30 goals in his last 52 games for club and country?

Not sure about that last stat. He's a 1 in 3.5 - 4 game striker. I know , cos I worked it out. Bloody hours it took me!

Even Jermaine Defoe has a better strike rate (just).

[Morph]

Yes we are - beacause like it or not, we don't have goals from a source - Cisse. Like him or loathe him - he scored goals - even out of position. Add Stevie's barren spell cf to last season and suddenly we look terribly short of goals, - 42 to be exact.

Behave, Cisse had about 8/9 league goals, if I recall by this point he had 3 including a penalty, so not exactly prolific was he.

[Shaggy]

Well a few weeks ago he had 27 in his last 48 starts....I've had to guess since then.

[Morph]

Not sure about that last stat. He's a 1 in 3.5 - 4 game striker. I know , cos I worked it out. Bloody hours it took me!

Even Jermaine Defoe has a better strike rate (just).

Well if I do my maths then Shaggys stats make him a 1 in 1.73 games striker, so ur calculator must be broken.

[Kopite_Colin]

Behave, Cisse had about 8/9 league goals, if I recall by this point he had 3 including a penalty, so not exactly prolific was he.

More prolific than anybody else we had except Stevie.

[Shaggy]

Well if I do my maths then Shaggys stats make him a 1 in 1.73 games striker, so ur calculator must be broken.

Aye but that stat is of course only on his last 50 odd appearances for club & country - the country bit not being directly relevant to us. Still, he's scoring goals which is more than can be said of our other strikers.

[Morph]

More prolific than anybody else we had except Stevie.

I have no evidence that suggests Bellamy won't achieve this target, and I belive Kuyt will quite easily pass that target.

[Red Chilli]

Crouch is just a goal machine, end of.

[Morph]

Aye but that stat is of course only on his last 50 odd appearances for club & country - the country bit not being directly relevant to us. Still, he's scoring goals which is more than can be said of our other strikers.

Yep his country goals are no good to us, but it still shows he's in form what ever way you spin it.

[Kopite_Colin]

Craig Bellamy All time playing career

Club From To Fee League FA Cup League cup Other
Liverpool 22-06-2006 £ 6000000 7 (0) 1 0 (0) 0 0 (0) 0 3 (3) 1
Blackburn 08-07-2005 22-06-2006 £ 5000000 22 (5) 13 1 (0) 2 3 (1) 2 0 (0) 0
Celtic 31-01-2005 30-05-2005 Loan 12 (0) 7 3 (0) 2 0 (0) 0 0 (0) 0
Newcastle 25-06-2001 08-07-2005 £ 6000000 87 (6) 28 5 (0) 0 3 (2) 4 24 (1) 11
Coventry 17-08-2000 25-06-2001 £ 6500000 33 (1) 6 2 (0) 1 3 (0) 1 0 (0) 0
Norwich 01-08-1996 17-08-2000 Trainee 71 (13) 32 1 (0) 0 6 (0) 2 0 (0) 0
Totals £ 23500000 232 (25) 87 12 (0) 5 15 (3) 9 27 (4) 12
goals / game 0.33 0.41 0.5 0.38

Goals in brackets

So I did him an injustice he's about a 1 in 3 - still not good enough for LFC 1st choice in my opinion

[Kopite_Colin]

Aye but that stat is of course only on his last 50 odd appearances for club & country - the country bit not being directly relevant to us. Still, he's scoring goals which is more than can be said of our other strikers.

2 in 13 appearances for us, doesn't suggest prolific to me, or someone who's in form.

[Bob]

Aye but that stat is of course only on his last 50 odd appearances for club & country - the country bit not being directly relevant to us. Still, he's scoring goals which is more than can be said of our other strikers.

Pppffffttt! - we're buying goals from Jamica, and an abject Greek outfit now!

Like i predicted the day we signed Kuyt, Crouch should become a third choice. That was until i seen how poorly the Welshman settled.

[Shaggy]

2 in 13 appearances for us, doesn't suggest prolific to me, or someone who's in form.

Eh???? Two? I can think of five off the top of my head - Haifa away, West Ham (the winner), two against Galatasaray at home and Bordeaux away (winner).

And he hardly ever starts.