Build up for the theatre of prawns

[DannyMan2006]

Sorry Will but no-one can take you serious mate with that avatar of yours

Forget the avatar, what about the smilie he used in his post

next time I meet someone of Est to watch the footy I'll run a mile if I get offered a hob nob biscuit

[wiw]

Sorry Will but no-one can take you serious mate with that avatar of yours

Damn

Respect Lucas' authoritah!

[SB]

Damn

Respect Lucas' authoritah!

That avatar may explain why he was Rafa's favorite last year

[Slinky Skills]

Sir Alex Ferguson and Roy Hodgson united in admiration and friendship

• Managers pay each other compliments before big match
• Relationship marks stark change from Rafael Benítez era

guardian.co.uk, Friday 17 September 2010 22.29

Roy Hodgson Roy Hodgson said that in his time in the game he regarded Sir Alex Ferguson as the greatest manager in English football. Photograph: Tim Hales/AP

It was an unusual sight: the first Manchester United game of the season and on the forecourt of Old Trafford the Liverpool manager, Roy Hodgson, signing autographs and politely fixing a smile while supporters snapped at him with mobile phones – unusual because the tribalism and history surrounding these clubs means Sir Alex Ferguson has to plan his visits to Anfield like a military operation.

Ferguson remembers one spying mission on Merseyside when the greeting as he got out of his car was "You Manc *******, come to see the champions?" There is old footage of him being jeered and harassed as he is escorted to the ground by two policemen, with the club's head of security close by. The United manager is doing a pretty good job of pretending he is oblivious to the Liverpool fan repeatedly shouting (expletives removed): "You must be lost mate, wrong ground."

But Hodgson inspires different emotions. The United fanzine Red Issue has begun a cartoon strip – "Watch Out It's Roy Boy" – mocking the way he pronounces his Rs (no wonder Albert Riera has been sold) but it is not malicious stuff. On Sunday, when the two clubs renew hostilities at Old Trafford, the home crowd may find it unusually difficult to conform to tradition and instantly regard him as a reviled enemy and that is certainly so for Ferguson, given the strength of a friendship dating back over 20 years.

Ferguson's relationship with the previous Liverpool manager, Rafael Benítez, had reached the point where he would refer to the Spaniard only by his surname and their handshakes at the end of matches were wonderfully orchestrated manoeuvres of contempt – no eye contact whatever, the briefest of touches, already moving in opposite directions, an operation freighted with cold disdain.

The animosity lingers. Ferguson was asked earlier this season about Benítez moving to Internazionale and José Mourinho to Read Madrid and "those permutations considered, do they favour United?" A smile crossed his lips. "They favour Madrid, no doubt about that," he replied.

Hodgson, on the other hand, counts as a personal friend, someone with whom he has spent many a night putting the world to rights. The two men share many things: a love of red wine, storytelling, politics, books, nostalgia and, most of all, football. Hodgson, at 63, is five years younger than Ferguson but closer to him in age than any other manager in the Premier League and sees him as being on his wavelength. Their biggest difference is that Hodgson's feelings towards Sam Allardyce, one of Ferguson's allies, are similar to those held by the grudge-collector Benítez. As for Hodgson's opinion of Ferguson, it is simple: "In my working lifetime I regard him as the greatest manager in English football."

In the Benítez years the press conferences before these matches had an undercurrent, occasionally spilling over into open hostility. Today they were cordial events, the two managers respectful of one another, with only good things to say.

"I know Alex is not really a Liverpool man but I've spoken to him and, in a jocular way, I asked that now I have this job we don't speak to each other," Hodgson said. "He didn't put the phone down. He made some cutting remark but I can't remember what it was." He believes they will share a bottle of wine at some point, though "maybe in secret".

In return Ferguson told the story of how they met one night in Malmo in 1987, when he had flown to Sweden only for the game to be called off inside the first few minutes. A 40-year-old Hodgson was managing Malmo at the time and got wind that the United manager had made a wasted journey. "It was a European tie against Ajax and we went to dinner," Ferguson recalled. "I've known him a long time now. He's gathered a wealth of experience in Italy, Switzerland, Finland and Scandinavia and the job he did last season at Fulham was extraordinary" – so good that Ferguson voted for him to be named the League Managers Association's manager of the year.

Later it was put to Ferguson that Hodgson's appointment had taken some of the sting out of the game because there were no longer personal issues between the rival dug-outs.

"I must correct you right away," he replied with a flash of indignation. "I've never been personal. You'd have to examine him [Benítez], not me. I've always enjoyed a good relationship with the Liverpool managers and both clubs have always addressed the situation properly after games. That changed under the last regime but it's not a big issue for me."

One certainty, though, is that the handshake at the final whistle on Sunday will be markedly different from the previous few seasons.

"I've always believed you don't have battles with other managers," Hodgson said. "Football teams have battles with other football teams, clubs have battles with other clubs. I've never subscribed to the theory that it's me and you. The 70,000 at Old Trafford turn up to watch the 22 actors on the field, not Alex and myself."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-alex-ferguson

**** off Ferguson you ****ing prick.

I cannot wait to get out for this one on Sunday, ****ing Manc cunts.

Roy what are you doing man, don't even get involved with that turd you soft cunt, you're making us look like a bunch of ****ing pussies.

I pray for the day when Carragher takes over as Manager, a least he'll have a bit of passion about him, something he's learned from Benitez.

Ferguson, go **** yourself and take your little grey haired friend who you walk up the stairs at Carrington with on SSN because we're going to **** you up the arse on Sunday you Manc cunt.

**** you Wio and Vidic and **** Van der Sarrr in goal you cock suckers.

Manc Cunts.

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Has the ITK started to sms the teamsheet yet?

[Mostar]

**** off Ferguson you ****ing prick.

I cannot wait to get out for this one on Sunday, ****ing Manc cunts.

Roy what are you doing man, don't even get involved with that turd you soft cunt, you're making us look like a bunch of ****ing pussies.

I pray for the day when Carragher takes over as Manager, a least he'll have a bit of passion about him, something he's learned from Benitez.

Ferguson, go **** yourself and take your little grey haired friend who you walk up the stairs at Carrington with on SSN because we're going to **** you up the arse on Sunday you Manc cunt.

**** you Wio and Vidic and **** Van der Sarrr in goal you cock suckers.

Manc Cunts.

It is good to vent sometimes

[Slinky Skills]

It is good to vent sometimes

Belends,

Torres is going to rape Wio and Vidic.

You've heard it here first.

[Slinky Skills]

Sir Alex Ferguson and Roy Hodgson united in admiration and friendship

• Managers pay each other compliments before big match
• Relationship marks stark change from Rafael Benítez era

guardian.co.uk, Friday 17 September 2010 22.29

Roy Hodgson Roy Hodgson said that in his time in the game he regarded Sir Alex Ferguson as the greatest manager in English football. Photograph: Tim Hales/AP

It was an unusual sight: the first Manchester United game of the season and on the forecourt of Old Trafford the Liverpool manager, Roy Hodgson, signing autographs and politely fixing a smile while supporters snapped at him with mobile phones – unusual because the tribalism and history surrounding these clubs means Sir Alex Ferguson has to plan his visits to Anfield like a military operation.

Ferguson remembers one spying mission on Merseyside when the greeting as he got out of his car was "You Manc *******, come to see the champions?" There is old footage of him being jeered and harassed as he is escorted to the ground by two policemen, with the club's head of security close by. The United manager is doing a pretty good job of pretending he is oblivious to the Liverpool fan repeatedly shouting (expletives removed): "You must be lost mate, wrong ground."

But Hodgson inspires different emotions. The United fanzine Red Issue has begun a cartoon strip – "Watch Out It's Roy Boy" – mocking the way he pronounces his Rs (no wonder Albert Riera has been sold) but it is not malicious stuff. On Sunday, when the two clubs renew hostilities at Old Trafford, the home crowd may find it unusually difficult to conform to tradition and instantly regard him as a reviled enemy and that is certainly so for Ferguson, given the strength of a friendship dating back over 20 years.

Ferguson's relationship with the previous Liverpool manager, Rafael Benítez, had reached the point where he would refer to the Spaniard only by his surname and their handshakes at the end of matches were wonderfully orchestrated manoeuvres of contempt – no eye contact whatever, the briefest of touches, already moving in opposite directions, an operation freighted with cold disdain.

The animosity lingers. Ferguson was asked earlier this season about Benítez moving to Internazionale and José Mourinho to Read Madrid and "those permutations considered, do they favour United?" A smile crossed his lips. "They favour Madrid, no doubt about that," he replied.

Hodgson, on the other hand, counts as a personal friend, someone with whom he has spent many a night putting the world to rights. The two men share many things: a love of red wine, storytelling, politics, books, nostalgia and, most of all, football. Hodgson, at 63, is five years younger than Ferguson but closer to him in age than any other manager in the Premier League and sees him as being on his wavelength. Their biggest difference is that Hodgson's feelings towards Sam Allardyce, one of Ferguson's allies, are similar to those held by the grudge-collector Benítez. As for Hodgson's opinion of Ferguson, it is simple: "In my working lifetime I regard him as the greatest manager in English football."

In the Benítez years the press conferences before these matches had an undercurrent, occasionally spilling over into open hostility. Today they were cordial events, the two managers respectful of one another, with only good things to say.

"I know Alex is not really a Liverpool man but I've spoken to him and, in a jocular way, I asked that now I have this job we don't speak to each other," Hodgson said. "He didn't put the phone down. He made some cutting remark but I can't remember what it was." He believes they will share a bottle of wine at some point, though "maybe in secret".

In return Ferguson told the story of how they met one night in Malmo in 1987, when he had flown to Sweden only for the game to be called off inside the first few minutes. A 40-year-old Hodgson was managing Malmo at the time and got wind that the United manager had made a wasted journey. "It was a European tie against Ajax and we went to dinner," Ferguson recalled. "I've known him a long time now. He's gathered a wealth of experience in Italy, Switzerland, Finland and Scandinavia and the job he did last season at Fulham was extraordinary" – so good that Ferguson voted for him to be named the League Managers Association's manager of the year.

Later it was put to Ferguson that Hodgson's appointment had taken some of the sting out of the game because there were no longer personal issues between the rival dug-outs.

"I must correct you right away," he replied with a flash of indignation. "I've never been personal. You'd have to examine him [Benítez], not me. I've always enjoyed a good relationship with the Liverpool managers and both clubs have always addressed the situation properly after games. That changed under the last regime but it's not a big issue for me."

One certainty, though, is that the handshake at the final whistle on Sunday will be markedly different from the previous few seasons.

"I've always believed you don't have battles with other managers," Hodgson said. "Football teams have battles with other football teams, clubs have battles with other clubs. I've never subscribed to the theory that it's me and you. The 70,000 at Old Trafford turn up to watch the 22 actors on the field, not Alex and myself."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...-alex-ferguson

**** you,

Hopefully Hodgson will smash that bottle of wine over your pin head you cunt.

Just because you bullied your way through the last 10 years of the premier league and someone finally stood up to you you smelly cunt you think you rule the roost, well you don't you purple nose prick.

I can't wait for the day that Benitez comes back to haunt you you Manc cunts and that day is coming soon so you better watch out.

Your time is coming to an end. Benitez is a born Red and he knows what you skanks stand for and that is the scum of the earth you manc *******s.

Benitez is going to come back and knock you off your ****ing perch one of these days, Carragher will be his deputy and once he takes over that we bill be a further 10 years of us sitting on our perch but before then Uncle Roy is going to be the one to rattle that ****ing budgie cage you got that cunts. He is going to learn quickly that it is no good being friends with you *******s.

****ing manc cunts.

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**** off Ferguson you ****ing prick.

I cannot wait to get out for this one on Sunday, ****ing Manc cunts.

Roy what are you doing man, don't even get involved with that turd you soft cunt, you're making us look like a bunch of ****ing pussies.

I pray for the day when Carragher takes over as Manager, a least he'll have a bit of passion about him, something he's learned from Benitez.

Ferguson, go **** yourself and take your little grey haired friend who you walk up the stairs at Carrington with on SSN because we're going to **** you up the arse on Sunday you Manc cunt.

**** you Wio and Vidic and **** Van der Sarrr in goal you cock suckers.

Manc Cunts.

**** you,

Hopefully Hodgson will smash that bottle of wine over your pin head you cunt.

Just because you bullied your way through the last 10 years of the premier league and someone finally stood up to you you smelly cunt you think you rule the roost, well you don't you purple nose prick.

I can't wait for the day that Benitez comes back to haunt you you Manc cunts and that day is coming soon so you better watch out.

Your time is coming to an end. Benitez is a born Red and he knows what you skanks stand for and that is the scum of the earth you manc *******s.

Benitez is going to come back and knock you off your ****ing perch one of these days, Carragher will be his deputy and once he takes over that we bill be a further 10 years of us sitting on our perch but before then Uncle Roy is going to the one to rattle that ****ing budgie cage you got that cunts. He is going to learn quickly that it is no good friend you with *******s.

****ing manc cunts.

Strange sense of Déjà vu here Slinky.

Though I do agree with your sentiments entirely...

[CJ]

i dont like our manager being friends with the ginsoak ****

[little dave hedgehog]

ferguson has gone too far.

cunt.

Fergie: Liverpool's problem was Rafa - not money or the board

Published 23:00 17/09/10 By David McDonnell

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Sir Alex Ferguson says Rafa Benitez is to blame for Liverpool's current problems.

Liverpool travel to arch rivals Manchester United tomorrow, with new boss Roy Hodgson having already admitted they have no chance of ending their 21-year wait for the title.

And United boss Fergie, who clashed often with Benitez during the Spaniard's six-year spell at Anfield, said Liverpool were now paying the price for their former manager's poor judgment in the transfer market.

While Benitez griped about not having enough money to spend, Ferguson says the figures showed the Spaniard could not blame his failings on a lack of funds or the turmoil surrounding Liverpool's ownership.
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"I don't know if Liverpool's current situation is anything to do with the financial position," said Fergie on the eve of tomorrow's Old Trafford clash.

"In the last regime they spent a lot of money on players, far more than Manchester United did. They had a huge squad of players, so I don't know if the financial position is anything to do with it.

"I really don't know because I'm not there. So I can't judge what the impact of these things is."

Benitez spent £240m during his Liverpool reign and recouped £152m, with a net spend of £88m. Fergie's outlay on players during the same period was £223m, recouping £165m, with a net spend of £58m.

Despite the fierce rivalry between United and Liverpool, Ferguson said he had always had respect for his Anfield counterparts - with the exception of Benitez, with whom he had an ongoing war of words.

"I've never been personal," said Fergie. "You should examine him [Benitez] not me. I've always enjoyed a good relationship with Liverpool's managers.

"Both clubs have always addressed the situation properly after games. That changed under the last regime, but it's not a big issue for me."

Although United have lost early ground to leaders Chelsea in the title race, after throwing away winning positions against Fulham and Everton, Ferguson said Carlo Ancelotti's side had enjoyed an easy start to the season.

Chelsea have played four of the Premier League's bottom five clubs in their opening fixtures and take on newly-promoted Blackpool tomorrow, when they will be expected to maintain their 100 per cent start.

"Chelsea have certainly had a very easy, early start to the season, theres no doubt about that," said Fergie. "There are big games coming up, but theyve had a good start nonetheless.

"You can only do what you can do with the games you've got. You've got to address them. Every game in the Premier League has its own complications, and how you address them the right way is how you get the results."


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[CJ]

interesting numbers

however the impact of one Ronaldo does skew it somewhat.

it was such a huge fee that it really distorts the numbers

oh and fergie is a ******* of the highest order

[wiw]

That's a horribly lazy comparison in money spent. Pathetic

[The_weatherman]

interesting numbers

however the impact of one Ronaldo does skew it somewhat.

it was such a huge fee that it really distorts the numbers

oh and fergie is a ******* of the highest order

Considering that we were playing catch up and they sold Ronaldo I'd say this was not a bad comparison really, this summer the difference is even smaller.

[Frenchie]

I hope Inter meet the Manc wanks in the Champions league and Rafa hands the purple nosed one his arse on a plate..5-0 home and 3-0 away 8-0 on agg...hee hee