Is Hodgson the right man for LFC

[Shaggy]

I still can't get my head around a) Poulsen full stop, b) £4m or whatever the hell it was he set us back, and c) a ****ing 4 year contract. He'll be 31 in February FFS.

Edit - a three year contract. Still, shambolic.

[DannyMan2006]

I think the players are trying just they're hamstrung by the **** tactics and formation employed. Our defence looks appalling now. Why? Biggest reason is sitting too deep and inviting pressure and more importantly crosses into the danger area. It's woeful from Roy to attempt this.

Last season the main reasons for failure was our central midfield axis, left attacker/forward and injuries. Im lumping Aurelio in with the injuries! Then all war broke out behind the scenes and Rafa couldn't turn it around.

Arguably we can now solve the midfield problem with Merieles but Hodgson has undermined the team with adding dross and **** formations.

Sorry mate but if his tactics were that bad he would never have made it as a football manager. Whilst it would be wrong to say he has done well wherever he has been, he has had some very significant successes.

He failed at Blackburn because like the LFC players they too wondered what the hell was going on and expected to play a more attacking style of football. Some at Inter didn't fancy his tactics either (R.Carlos prime example) but they got on with it because (especially back then) Italian football is by and large a defensive game.

In England the top teams expect to press the opposition and when every time you've been managed that has been the case, when a new bloke comes in and tells you to absorb pressure the players are clearly going to be flumoxed.

I said a while a go that Hodgson needs to go as clearly his methods will never take off at Anfield, but it doesn't make him a bad manager. I think if the players had been 100% behind his ideas we would be doing better than we are now, but it would have been unlikely to have ever seen us progressing to being a top side.

I do however think that he would have done a steady enough job so that when a new manager does come in afetr the takeover, we'd have been in at least a reasonable position to go for fourth place.

But as I said, I realised that the players were not buying into his ideas, and when a manager doesn't have the players he has no chance of doing well. It's been a sad appointment for all concerned tbh.

[Shaggy]

He's clearly a decent manager of small-ish sides with next to no expectation. Minnows, basically. At this level he's totally out of his depth.

[DannyMan2006]

I still can't get my head around a) Poulsen full stop, b) £4m or whatever the hell it was he set us back, and c) a ****ing 4 year contract. He'll be 31 in February FFS.

Edit - a three year contract. Still, shambolic.

I'm guessing he had three years left on his Juve deal and wouldn't give it up unless he got similar here.

On the face of it Poulsen was a good signing for Roy. He has worked with Poulsen and knows that he will buy into his ethos. Poulsen has been a very good player and anyone watching him from afar would say his no nonsence physichal style is suited to the Premiership.

The problem is his legs seem to have gone. But I guess if you watch him in the slow paced Italian league it's hard to judge, especially since he wasn't an automatic starter.

[DannyMan2006]

He's clearly a decent manager of small-ish sides with next to no expectation. Minnows, basically. At this level he's totally out of his depth.

I wouldn't say out of his depth. I would say unsuited. And he is a more than decent manager for lesser sides. He has a very good track record as far as lesser teams are considered.

It's basically like this. You couldn't have Pep Guardiola takeover San Marino as they wouldn't be good enough to play the game he likes it to be played. But if Roy went there and started instilling his tactical nous that is something that could work.

The opposite is also obviously true.

[red g]

Oh great!!! Get the open top bus out. We wont be relegated.

end the season on a high

[red g]

Another Fulham player think it was Kamara said at the weekend ' Under Hughes we are creating a lot more goal scoring opportunities away from home'

[Rowan]

I wouldn't say out of his depth. I would say unsuited. And he is a more than decent manager for lesser sides. He has a very good track record as far as lesser teams are considered.

It's basically like this. You couldn't have Pep Guardiola takeover San Marino as they wouldn't be good enough to play the game he likes it to be played. But if Roy went there and started instilling his tactical nous that is something that could work.

The opposite is also obviously true.

Danny, the whole club is out of it's depth in some capacity. Look all the way down. Owners not able to meet the financial obligations of a club of our status, a board without the experience to make football decisions, a manager who doesn't seem to have the first clue what he's doing (but who seems a jolly nice chap) and player (Poulson is coming in for the brunt of fury here but he's not alone) who aren't up to the challenge from an abilty standpoint as well as those who can't hack the mental challenge. The solid spine that used to run from pepe to Torres has been replaced by a **** shooting spine of despair and incompetence that runs through every facet of the clubs being. However, even if we sort the owner issues out, the players sort there heads out and the board chips in to get a copy of 'An Idiots Guide To Running A Football Club' Hodgson will still be a mile out of his depth at this level. He needs to go, like, pronto.

[DannyMan2006]

He needs to go, like, pronto.

I don't argue that. I said the same ages a go. I just think it is unfair for people to suggest he is an ale house standard manager.

[Fredo]

[Leyton388]

I think this is proof of what happens when you have people running a football club that have no experience in football.

[IN_RAFA_WE_TRUST]

If we lose to everton,that's it,we are well and trully ****ed,if you didn't already believe it.
It's the merseyside derby,if they can't show a bit of passion and fight in this then get ready for a relegation fight,actually should I say struggle?survival?like I mentioned a week or two ago that someone had said,these players don't have the bottle for a relegation fight,we are as good as gone.

[Lecter]

Do you really think that if Roy stayed in charge for the whole season we would get relegated? I won't shed a tear for him if he is sacked but there's no way we are goin gto finish this low if he did stay on, not a chance.

Really

People said we wouldnt get beat by Northampton and then we wouldnt get beat by Blackpool

Ok we are playing poorly some of that is down to individual performances but I think collectively the tactics are failing miserably

The same tactics Roy has been using for 35 years

Do you think he will change them??

If Roy stays we will be in the fight of our lives and frankly looking at the players we have I dont fancy our chances because mentally I dont think they have it in them

[Lecter]

Sorry mate but if his tactics were that bad he would never have made it as a football manager. Whilst it would be wrong to say he has done well wherever he has been, he has had some very significant successes.

He failed at Blackburn because like the LFC players they too wondered what the hell was going on and expected to play a more attacking style of football. Some at Inter didn't fancy his tactics either (R.Carlos prime example) but they got on with it because (especially back then) Italian football is by and large a defensive game.

In England the top teams expect to press the opposition and when every time you've been managed that has been the case, when a new bloke comes in and tells you to absorb pressure the players are clearly going to be flumoxed.

I said a while a go that Hodgson needs to go as clearly his methods will never take off at Anfield, but it doesn't make him a bad manager. I think if the players had been 100% behind his ideas we would be doing better than we are now, but it would have been unlikely to have ever seen us progressing to being a top side.

I do however think that he would have done a steady enough job so that when a new manager does come in afetr the takeover, we'd have been in at least a reasonable position to go for fourth place.

But as I said, I realised that the players were not buying into his ideas, and when a manager doesn't have the players he has no chance of doing well. It's been a sad appointment for all concerned tbh.

This is it you see

His tactics are reliant on two things

1) being dominant in the air at the back
2) having a target man upfront

We dont have either, so that begs two questions

1) why didnt Hodgson target and sign players of that ilk in the transfer window
2) why when we dont have those players and it is crystal clear that the current tactics are totally not suited to our current players is he still persisting with them

How many jobs has Roy had in the last 10 years?

I wonder how many of those jobs hes gone to and failed to change his system and ideals due to not being compatible with the playing staff he has available

I dont know the actual answer to this but I bet you it will be quite a high porportion

[Roboklopp]

It's that sort of arrogance and complacency that has played a large part in our current situation.