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    So what are our true expectations? Battling relegation? **** off, Roy.

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      We are one of the worst teams to watch in the league in terms of pure quality of football. Hodgson just seems to be way out of his depth here, as do several players, and come January if things have not improved there I can see some serious changes being made.
      "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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        Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
        Diomansy Kamara says Fulham's style of football and training methods were worse under Roy Hodgson than they are now.

        Kamara praised new Fulham manager Mark Hughes, who replaced current Liverpool boss Hodgson in the summer, for his more attacking approach.

        Fulham striker Kamara said: 'We play more attacking football now. So for me it is better. I enjoy the style of football here more now under Hughes.

        On the ball: Diomansy Kamara (left) in action for Fulham against Everton on Saturday

        'There is no fault with Roy Hodgson, he did really well here, but training with Hughes is better - you do more with the ball. You do more running with the ball and you are trying to score.'

        Kamara is relishing the chance to play for such a highly-regarded former striker, saying: 'Who does not know Mark Hughes? He had those years at Barcelona and Manchester United. He was a great player with a lot of charisma. When you are player like Hughes, a striker, you can learn more, because he was a great striker.'

        Kamara was not in favour with Hodgson, having been sent out on loan to Celtic last season. But an injury crisis among Fulham strikers has meant that Kamara is back in the first team picture for Fulham, coming on as a substitute in Saturday's 0-0 home draw with Everton.

        'I was injured for the past few months but I think i have more chance now to play,' he said.

        'I was on loan at Celtic and it was a good experience but I was there with Tony Mowbray and ,when he was sacked, he told me it made no sense to stay at this club. It was a good experience for me and I learned a little bit about Scottish football.'

        Speaking about his injury, he added: 'Someone kicked me on the foot in the summer - a sore foot, that is it. That has kept me out until now.'
        While i do agree with his sentiments......just sounds like he is brown nosing his new boss after being ditched by his old one.
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          Originally posted by TheElephantMan View Post
          Did you watch us last season?
          You do know that we had a lot of injuries to a lot of key players? Torres missed more than half the season. Johnson three or four months. Masch was forced to play right back a few games and was banned a lot of games. Aquilani injured/sick a lot. Agger playing left back after Insua got injured. Gerrard injured a month or two. Agger injured three, four months. Benayoun injured two, three months, Riera injured five, six months.

          Aquilani and Johnson was two key players for the attacking system to work. Agger playing in the middle of the defense was another key.

          ------------------------Reina
          Johnson-------Carra------------Agger---------Insua
          ---------------Masch-------Aquilani--------
          ------Kuyt------------Gerrard--------Benayoun-----
          -----------------------Torres---------------------

          I would say that this is a starting XI that is built to play pass and move attacking football.
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            There have been talks that Didier Deschamps may be drafted in, seen this on Twitter this morning.
            Are we winning?

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              Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
              You do more running with the ball and you are trying to score.'

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              So what were they doing in training before that?

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                Originally posted by Arn View Post
                Rafa slowly built up the club to play pass and move attacking football. He changed our youth teams to do that and the reserve teams. He signed players for the senior team to do that.

                Johnson, Insua and Aquilani instead of more defensive players. Then we sign up a manager that play hoof ball

                The whole club was built to play attacking pass and move football. It took a few years but that was what Rafa clearly wanted.

                Roy, you should take a look at the team. The team isn't built to play hoof ball. It's built to play football. A few years ago it was built to play hoof ball. That was at the end of the 2003-04 season. Now it's as I said built to play pass and move attacking football.

                When you understand that to start with then we will probably win more games.
                I'm not convinced it is as clear cut as that. Roys teams have tended to like to pass the ball in midfield. The problem is that they have also looked to get the ball in the box quickly and often in the air and he does like his defence to defend first. Torres is not a forward who is great with his back to goal or with the ball in the air from deep. I think there is a possibility of Roy getting the balance right but he needs to change things - the question is will he do it? At the minute during games he doesn't seem to but he may be slowly evolving an accommodation between his philosophy and the players he has, it's difficult to tell as results always out weigh marginal improvements in subjective performance.

                It also has to be accepted that the last steps of Rafa's move to a more attack minded team were faltering. I think he needed time but the change was not complete.

                I think parts of Roys assessment are fair enough but he is going too far and seems to already have accepted us as a mid table team which is not what anyone wants to hear. Rafa was always striving to be the best and said so. I do think people have long had a tendency to read too much in to Roy's comments though - I remember before a game when Fulham were playing United and everyone was slating him for his comments and claiming they were bound to 'bend over for United' and they went on to win fairly convincingly.
                "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                -- William Blake

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                  Or more precisely, it seems Martin Broughton admitted that it was a tough decision between Hodgson and Deschamps, if this is to be believed.

                  Oliver Kay
                  Deschamps #LFC claims not a huge surprise. Broughton admitted to "a number of face-to-face i/views" before deciding on Hodgson
                  Are we winning?

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                    Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                    Diomansy Kamara says Fulham's style of football and training methods were worse under Roy Hodgson than they are now.

                    Kamara praised new Fulham manager Mark Hughes, who replaced current Liverpool boss Hodgson in the summer, for his more attacking approach.

                    Fulham striker Kamara said: 'We play more attacking football now. So for me it is better. I enjoy the style of football here more now under Hughes.

                    On the ball: Diomansy Kamara (left) in action for Fulham against Everton on Saturday

                    'There is no fault with Roy Hodgson, he did really well here, but training with Hughes is better - you do more with the ball. You do more running with the ball and you are trying to score.'

                    Kamara is relishing the chance to play for such a highly-regarded former striker, saying: 'Who does not know Mark Hughes? He had those years at Barcelona and Manchester United. He was a great player with a lot of charisma. When you are player like Hughes, a striker, you can learn more, because he was a great striker.'

                    Kamara was not in favour with Hodgson, having been sent out on loan to Celtic last season. But an injury crisis among Fulham strikers has meant that Kamara is back in the first team picture for Fulham, coming on as a substitute in Saturday's 0-0 home draw with Everton.

                    'I was injured for the past few months but I think i have more chance now to play,' he said.

                    'I was on loan at Celtic and it was a good experience but I was there with Tony Mowbray and ,when he was sacked, he told me it made no sense to stay at this club. It was a good experience for me and I learned a little bit about Scottish football.'

                    Speaking about his injury, he added: 'Someone kicked me on the foot in the summer - a sore foot, that is it. That has kept me out until now.'
                    To be fair all our players were eulogising the 'breath of fresh air' Roy bought with him before the season started. Players always suck up to the new manager and paradoxically almost always say the same thing.
                    "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                    -- William Blake

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                      Originally posted by dww View Post

                      It also has to be accepted that the last steps of Rafa's move to a more attack minded team were faltering. I think he needed time but the change was not complete.
                      I think he got it right in the season when we came second. We played some absolutely marvellous attacking football in that season.
                      Are we winning?

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                        Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
                        There have been talks that Didier Deschamps may be drafted in, seen this on Twitter this morning.
                        on Twitter - then it must be true

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                          Originally posted by NigelLG View Post
                          I think he got it right in the season when we came second. We played some absolutely marvellous attacking football in that season.
                          We did at times but we also failed to breakdown teams we should have done. We needed further evolution to keep competitive long term in my view. I think failing to maintain the balance we achieved with Riera on one wing was a big problem which I think a solution to would have saved us from the **** ending to last season and the need/desire to change manager.
                          "The man who never alters his opinion is like standing water, and breeds reptiles of the mind."
                          -- William Blake

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                            Without doubt the most clueless manager infront of the media I have ever seen. Whether it was "I didnt have high expectations anyway" after a draw at Birmingham, the pathetic comments about Shelvey, calling Northampton a "formidable challenge", refusing to defend Torres until a week later and now this.

                            The guy is so badly out of his depth here its just incredible.

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                              Originally posted by Darkon View Post
                              on Twitter - then it must be true
                              It's from Oliver Kay's 'Twitter' feed and allegedly comes straight from Martin Broughton's mouth, so I'd say it's got an element of truth. I also remember us being linked with Deschamps quite strongly just before we appointed Roy.
                              Are we winning?

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                                yes but he turned us down. Don't even think it got to interview.

                                We approached Marseille and they turned us down flat
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                                Weak willed, Wank or do they have a masterplan?

                                Think we have the answer..Slot!!

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